Value of: If Washington trades Ovechkin...
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You'd just be very very incorrect. He had a down year, let's not jump to conclusions that he isn't a 50 goal scorer. This isn't the first time he has had a down year too in his career. The last time he did he bounced back with three 50 goal seasons. Besides why would Washington move him without quality going back? Just wouldn't make any sense.
He keeps that building in Washington full and makes them a virtual lock for playoffs every year and sells a boat load of jerseys.
The GM is not going to trade him, there's more to hockey than just the on-ice stuff, it's a business. It's highly unlikely the Caps would be getting a star draw on par with Ovechkin if they traded him.
If they ever win a Cup for Ovy, that's almost a bonus at this point. He only has like 4 years left on his deal anyway, which is perfectly manageable. Maaaaaaybe they deal him in the last year of his deal as a rental to somewhere but that's about it.
The GM is not going to trade him, there's more to hockey than just the on-ice stuff, it's a business. It's highly unlikely the Caps would be getting a star draw on par with Ovechkin if they traded him.
If they ever win a Cup for Ovy, that's almost a bonus at this point. He only has like 4 years left on his deal anyway, which is perfectly manageable. Maaaaaaybe they deal him in the last year of his deal as a rental to somewhere but that's about it.
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they've had basically the same team at the top for a while now, and adding other pieces like Oshie/Kuznetsov etc. hasn't helped get them anywhere, if this summer isn't the time for a big change then next summer is it. your making it sound like they've only been in this situation for a year or 2 it's been at least 10 years of being Cup Contenders with nothing even remotely close to winning it.
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Yeah if Ovechkin stays they are going to be a weaker team one of Oshie or Alzner is leaving and most likely Williams. They don't have the cap to add any more. What you saw a week ago was the best team the Caps are going to ice as long as Ovechkin is here.
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Im not convinced he is decling, he IS declining. Once you wake up from your Cinderella dream maybe you'll see reality for what it is. And you say you can get a better offer?? LOLL sweet dreams. I'm sure you'll get Tarasenko back for Ovechkin or wait maybe a top five draft pick for a guy with four years left !!! How about an organizations top prospesct!! Don't forget it's an organization with 10 million in cap hanging around to spare than Ovechkin has to accept the deal to that team !! LOL good luck.
I didn't include things like salary as I said just to start.
Also I'm not a Washington fan so I don't know for sure but don't you think they'd want offense coming back? They could free up some cap space and re-sign a defenceman instead of losing one to FA.
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Jared McCann is what a D- Prospect at this point? His game appears to translate to one thing career minor-leaguer. Petrovic, the Caps have three RD at the NHL level better than him and Bowey in the AHL who I'd probably rather give those NHL minutes to. Two mid- late-1st aren't quite the lipstick you need for that pig. It's the steaming pile with a couple pieces of corn on it. The Caps may not get much for Ovechkin but if they trade him they'll do so for pieces that they need and that make them better. It's fine if you want to dump on Ovechkin but don't skirt the fact that everything you offered amounts to a whole bunch of nothing. If we need to fill out our AHL roster for a few years we'll trade you Orpik.
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He's 33. You will have to give up too many assets to acquire him. He will stay in Washington as he will diminish over time
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Liam Smith
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This is actually not too bad, although Caps fans probably would want more
The only wingers they could be would be Kane or Okposo though, and doubtful the Sabres will want to trade Okposo soon after signing. Kane has less value so Buffalo would need to add another piece (a defenseman, to offset Washington's anticipated loss of Shattenkirk and possibly Alzner) Eichel and OV would make a nice duo, with O'Reilly and Okposo anchoring the second line
How highly regarded is McCabe? Could Buffalo afford to lose him? Would they need a defenseman back? (Schmidt? don't know too much about him). Alzner is a pending UFA correct?
Reinhart+McCabe+Kane+8OA? For Ovechkin+Schmidt? Or no Schmidt?
Washington could then use the cap space to retain some players expected to leave (Oshie, Shattenkirk) and try to trade up/down in the draft for a higher pick or assets
Perhaps part of the value could come from a retention deal for Orpik so that Buffalo could send less value b/c Washington is getting rid of a bad contract
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go4hockey
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Any team that gave that much up would regret it the very next day and for the next 10 years. He is not worth half what many think he is worth at this time of his career taken age and contract left to take on.
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He could've pulled a Jagr if he didn't play such a physical game throughout his career. It finally caught up to him.
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So without Weber and Pacioretty, Montreal with Ovechkin would be significantly worse than any Washington with Ovechkin team of this era, and they have never reached a conference finals once which is the only reason they would look to trade Ovechkin in the first place.
Sounds very bad for them.
He'd probably be happiest in Florida, he loves Miami.
And they have the pieces and cap space to pull it off, as well as the marketing angle.
He's far from finished, has a few more 40-50g/80p seasons in him with the right team
And they have the pieces and cap space to pull it off, as well as the marketing angle.
He's far from finished, has a few more 40-50g/80p seasons in him with the right team
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