Speculation: If the Coyotes continue to fall, will Hall be Traded again?

[thestonedkoala]

Its incredible how little elite talent this team has with being so bad for so long. Feel bad for the fans.

You're not kidding; their best 1st round pick never played for them (Black Wheeler). After that:

Scott Kelman (never played) and Kirill Safronov (played 35 games)

Fedrik Sjostrom, Ben Eager, Jakob Koreis (never played), Blake Wheeler (didn't play for them), Martin Hanzal (good defensive forward), Chris Summers, Peter Mueller (concussions), Kyle Turris (wasn't great), Viktor Tikhonov, Mikkel Boedker, Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Mark Visentin, Brandom Gormley, Connor Murphy, Henrik Samuelsson, Max Domi, Brendan Perlini, Dylan Strome, Jakob Chychrun, Clayton Keller...

Keller looks promising, but damn:

Strome, Turris, Wheeler, Boedker, Mueller all top 10 picks and only Mueller scored more than 20 goals, and next is Boedker with 19 goals. That is some really poor drafting.

 

[tellermine]

It would be good move.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Chayka just was extended.

Doing what the owner asks is a great way for that to happen. lol

 

[Slats432]

Edmonton fans...

 

[BUX7PHX]

Meh - the only way he gets traded is if the Coyotes fall so far out of the playoff picture (like losing their next 8 in a row), and Hall basically tells Chayka that he will not re-sign. Otherwise, I am not certain I get the idea of trading him. He has been the best player in Arizona (easily). If the idea is that he must be traded because he won't re-sign with Arizona - that still doesn't negate the playoffs as a possibility. The Coyotes could trade him and still make the playoffs, which makes a weird spin, because Hall was looking for a team that is a playoff-caliber team to re-sign with.

It just makes such little sense to do...

 

[BUX7PHX]

Kuemper is a good goalie, but its not like he's Dryden. Did it effect the Yotes? Sure, but lets not pretend that Kuemper is an elite goalie or anything.

Yotes are badly in need of some REAL centers. I know Dvorak is only 24, but that guy's game just isn't suited for playing with Hall or Kessel. He's more of a decent 2c and a killer 3c. And then that brings us to 6.5 million 21 point center Derek Stepan... yikes.

Yeah, having a GAA that was under 2 right up until that Minnesota game where he got injured (brought him up to like a 2.10 GAA per game) doesn't do anything. Meantime, Columbus is getting back into the swing of things thanks to a GAA under 2 in their last 14 games.

Might want to think about what you are typing before hitting "Post Reply." If a goalie is less than 2.25 GAA per game, he is probably a big reason behind success...

 

[BUX7PHX]

Not as good as Kuemper has been, right ?

true but raanta before this stint was better than he is atm when he did play

Kuemper is far ahead of Raanta right now.

 

[Sonofamitch]

If I’m a team I avoid Hall at all costs, dude has some weird magic curse on him that makes him destined to always be a loser.

 

[jrs]

If I’m a team I avoid Hall at all costs, dude has some weird magic curse on him that makes him destined to always be a loser.

Maybe the curse is lifted when he gets to choose where he wants to go

 

[DarthProbert]

You're not kidding; their best 1st round pick never played for them (Black Wheeler). After that:

Scott Kelman (never played) and Kirill Safronov (played 35 games)

Fedrik Sjostrom, Ben Eager, Jakob Koreis (never played), Blake Wheeler (didn't play for them), Martin Hanzal (good defensive forward), Chris Summers, Peter Mueller (concussions), Kyle Turris (wasn't great), Viktor Tikhonov, Mikkel Boedker, Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Mark Visentin, Brandom Gormley, Connor Murphy, Henrik Samuelsson, Max Domi, Brendan Perlini, Dylan Strome, Jakob Chychrun, Clayton Keller...

Keller looks promising, but damn:

Strome, Turris, Wheeler, Boedker, Mueller all top 10 picks and only Mueller scored more than 20 goals, and next is Boedker with 19 goals. That is some really poor drafting.

I'd put Chychrun well ahead of Keller personally.

Meh - the only way he gets traded is if the Coyotes fall so far out of the playoff picture (like losing their next 8 in a row), and Hall basically tells Chayka that he will not re-sign. Otherwise, I am not certain I get the idea of trading him. He has been the best player in Arizona (easily). If the idea is that he must be traded because he won't re-sign with Arizona - that still doesn't negate the playoffs as a possibility. The Coyotes could trade him and still make the playoffs, which makes a weird spin, because Hall was looking for a team that is a playoff-caliber team to re-sign with.

It just makes such little sense to do...

Maybe Hall should make a team into a playoff team instead of wanting to be paid neary $100 million to go along for a ride with one.

 

[Mooserton]

Arizona traded for him to help the team make the playoffs even if they're out by the deadline they'll likely still be close in the hunt. So there's no way they trade him unless they go on an abhorrent losing streak

 

[Kaner9]

Send him to Wash. See how far that team can drop in the standings. I like THall but his record is soooooo bad

 

[Conbon]

This is his first photo as a Coyote....you be the judge.

He would make a great circus clown with a face like that

 

[greasysnapper]

Chayka can actually come out on top of this with a bigger haul for Hall... and here's how... He can retain again on Hall and bring his contract down by half again for the final allowed retention on a contract.

Instantly that opens up so many contenders close to the cap in being able to afford him.

 

[Smitty426]

Chayka can actually come out on top of this with a bigger haul for Hall... and here's how... He can retain again on Hall and bring his contract down by half again for the final allowed retention on a contract.

Instantly that opens up so many contenders close to the cap in being able to afford him.

If they move him it means they are out of the POs. They are a lottery pick that is top 3 protected. As much as I thought they could get more than they did from the yotes, a 4-16 pick won't be beat this year.

 

[BUX7PHX]

I'd put Chychrun well ahead of Keller personally.



Maybe Hall should make a team into a playoff team instead of wanting to be paid neary $100 million to go along for a ride with one.

Yeah, I would think that it is safe to say that he is doing his part, considering he has 19 points in 21 games. That was what some people thought Kessel might be able to provide. Hall is doing what he needs to do - its the loss of Kuemper and some random disappearing acts by Kessel and even Schmaltz and Keller that are the greater issue.