Speculation: If Hamonic is done due to no Vaccine, where does that leave the D-Core

[platotld]

No vac no play, simple due to constrictions in NHL and within Canada and the USA. So our depth charts goes :

Vancouver Canucks Depth Charts Roster and Line Projection - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

We have no CAP room and need Pete and Huggy :

POS # DEFENSE NAT POS AGE SH HT WT CAP HIT EXPIRY GP G A P P/GP TOI +/- ACQUIRED
LD 43 Hughes, Quinn United States LD 21 L 5'10" 170 RFA 2021 56 3 38 41 0.73 22:48 -24 Drafted (7 - 2018)
RD 57 Myers, Tyler Canada RD 31 R 6'8" 229 $6,000,000 UFA 2024 55 6 15 21 0.38 22:04 -8 Signed to SPC
LD 23 Ekman-Larsson, Oliver Sweden LD 30 L 6'2" 200 $7,260,000 UFA 2027 46 3 21 24 0.52 20:58 -17 Traded
RD 27 Hamonic, Travis Canada RD 31 R 6'2" 205 $3,000,000 UFA 2023 38 3 7 10 0.26 19:22 -3 Signed to SPC
LD 48 Juolevi, Olli Finland LD 23 L 6'2" 183 $750,000 RFA 2022 23 2 1 3 0.13 13:12 -1 Drafted (5 - 2016)
RD 5 Poolman, Tucker United States RD 28 R 6'2" 199 $2,500,000 UFA 2025 39 0 1 1 0.03 18:18 -2 Signed to SPC

Right now without Huges and Hamonic, we need at least at #2 and #4 defenseman. We have as fillers :

D 77 Hunt, Brad Canada LD 33 L 5'9" 176 $800,000 UFA 2022 12 1 0 1 0.08 12:20 -8 Signed to SPC
D 3 Rathbone, Jack Waivers Exempt United States LD 22 L 5'11" 190 $925,000 RFA 2022 8 1 2 3 0.38 15:30 1 Drafted (95 - 2017)
D 44 Burroughs, Kyle Canada RD 26 R 6'0" 198 $750,000 UFA 2023 5 0 1 1 0.20 10:04 1 Signed to SPC
D 4 Bowey, Madison Canada RD 26 R 6'2" 202 $725,000 UFA 2022 2 0 1 1 0.50 11:08 1 Traded
D 25 Keeper, Brady Canada RD 25 R 6'2" 194 $762,500 UFA 2023 1 0 0 0 0.00 09:28 0 Signed to SPC
D 55 Brisebois, Guillaume Canada LD 24 L 6'2" 175 $750,000 RFA 2022 1 0 0 0 0.00 11:31 0 Drafted (66 - 2015)
D 61 Stephens, Devante Canada D 24 L 6'1" 172 $750,000 RFA 2022 Signed to SPC
D 52 Woo, Jett Waivers Exempt Canada RD 21 R 6'0" 200 $860,833 RFA 2023 Drafted (37 - 2018)
D 59 Persson, Viktor Waivers Exempt Sweden RD 19 R 6'2" 192 Drafted (191 - 2020)

Jul 28, 2021

Luke Schenn

D

Signed as Free Agent Two-year contract: TBL 38 2 2 4 2 51 0 0 0 0 0 0 43 4.7 [TBODY] [/TBODY]

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Is it really Schenn?

His cap hit at 3 smill really Ducks us, since Covid and not being unaccinated does still COUNT on cap hits. So In order to sign Pete and Huggy Bear we can't take on more money. Who of the above in red do you think can replace 6'2 stay at home to somewhat decent point pro D if he remains firm on this stance ?

Can we trade him? Well depends since Jet Black gave him a limited NTC, dumb dumb dumb! Anyways let me know your thoughts.

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[canuckking1]

Schenn takes his spot.

 

[Regal]

I'm assuming Schenn would be the most likely if Hamonic wasn't going to play. I'd rather have both Rathbone and Juolevi playing though to see what they have, at least if they're going to play as well as Schenn or another replacement, and move a guy over to the right side. I wouldn't be against trying Hughes on the right. A lot of good puck movers can and have played their off sides, because it opens up passing options for them. As well, Hughes actually can get in trouble from forecheckers pressuring him trying to carry the puck out of the zone, and it causes him to curl back with the puck and regroup, suppressing the play and sometimes causing him to turn it over. He probably wouldn't have to do that as often if he's on his offside, because he has more ice to move into on his forehand to make an initial deke and lose the forechecker. You don't usually want your defensemen making plays into the middle in your own zone, but Hughes has the skill to do it.

 

[F A N]

Honestly, I think it just impacts our depth more than anything. Right now, assuming Hughes signs, our D consists of OEL, Hughes, Myers, Poolman, Schenn, Rathbone, Juolevi, and Hunt. Then comes the Brady tier of guys. Where would you rank Hamonic in that D core and is he THAT much better from the guys you ranked below him if any?

 

[Hammer79]

If Hamonic refuses the jab, he'll get put on the trade block for a US based team. The suspension would only be for US road trips and we can't plan the yearly cap hit based on planned suspensions. We have to take his full cap hit on and bank the suspension days for later in the year, because it's a day-to-day cap. If he remains, he's still eligible for 41 home games plus the road games in Canadian cities, he just can't cross the border due to 2 week quarantine. So either we use his suspension relief at the deadline, or find a place for him.

 

[nucksflailtogether]

God this is a terrible start
And I'm usually not one to freak out. Not that I'm freaking out but this just is not what we needed.

 

[timw33]

If Hamonic refuses the jab, he'll get put on the trade block for a US based team. The suspension would only be for US road trips and we can't plan the yearly cap hit based on planned suspensions. We have to take his full cap hit on and bank the suspension days for later in the year, because it's a day-to-day cap. If he remains, he's still eligible for 41 home games plus the road games in Canadian cities, he just can't cross the border due to 2 week quarantine. So either we use his suspension relief at the deadline, or find a place for him.

You don't bank cap savings if you are operating in LTIR, which the Canucks will be the moment the two RFA's sign.

 

[Oliewud]

That tucker poolman deep dive analysis gave me some optimism. Myers, Poolman, Schenn.


It messes up our depth but doesn't change things dramatically.

 

[wavaxa2]

It is speculative to assume he's an anti-vaxxer because he missed testing. He caught Covid once himself, watched his whole team catch it, and opted out of the bubble due to Covid concerns and an ill child. It seems a little out of character that this would be the guy who refuses a jab.

 

[Diogenes92]

Garbage D-core becomes even more stinky. This is really bad news.

 

[Love]

LOL

 

[Love]

Benning has everything under control. Believe me. The D core is definitely better than last season. The Hughes and Pettersson contracts are very important and very close to being done.

 

[Tact]

OEL - Myers
Rathbone - Poolman
Hunt - Schenn
*Juolevi

Thats starting the season without Hughes+Hamonic

 

[dbaz]

well assuming his 3mil could be gone. thats roughly 19.5mil for hughes and pettersson? rip defence tho

 

[Diversification]

Can someone catch me up on this? Is it clear that he's unvaccinated or is it just speculation?

For someone who stayed out of the bubble playoffs, this seems a bit off brand, no?

 

[Melvin]

Wtf Twitter that is not the tweet i copied

 

[Melvin]

Can someone catch me up on this? Is it clear that he's unvaccinated or is it just speculation?

For someone who stayed out of the bubble playoffs, this seems a bit off brand, no?

Drance tweeted this



so still somewhat speculation but it is substantiated by a media member.

could be he is just very late getting it though, nobody knows for sure.

 

[StreetHawk]

It is speculative to assume he's an anti-vaxxer because he missed testing. He caught Covid once himself, watched his whole team catch it, and opted out of the bubble due to Covid concerns and an ill child. It seems a little out of character that this would be the guy who refuses a jab.

Agree on all points. Merely the fact that he has a family member who is high risk, it seems illogical for him to not want the vaccine.

 

[Melvin]

Agree on all points. Merely the fact that he has a family member who is high risk, it seems illogical for him to not want the vaccine.

it may shock you to learn that human beings can be extremely illogical.

 

[Grub]

Would leave the team D pretty ****** up.

 

[lawrence]

Well if he’s traded to the states he won’t see his kid for at least 7 months….. unless he relocates his family to the states.

that said It also gives us an extra 3 mill in cap space hopefully we can sign Quinn and Elias.

 

[Cogburn]

If this was written into his contract as grounds for termination, that would be the path to take, if true.

Obviously Benning just jumped into the team vaccine idea after Winnipeg with no other plan though, is my guess.

This is all assuming Hamonic didn't miss testing for other reasons.

 

[Gstank]

Can we close this thread until we get a concrete reason for why he isnt at camp. Our team media has done guessing game way too many times and got burned for this to many times in the past year for this to have any legs

 

[mathonwy]

Would leave the team D pretty ****** up.

That already happened when we gave Minors 6M.

 

[VanIsle23]

That already happened when we gave Minors 6M.

Who are you talking about? If it's the new Abbotsford crew, they all have buriable contacts so they don't have any effect on the cap.