If Andrei Markov wins a cup....
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I don't think Stanley Cup should have incidence on that event occurring. Different times. League doesn't have 6 teams anymore
Leon Lucius Black
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He would've needed a Norris or two to even get considered, he's been awesome his whole career for us but not good enough to have his number retired.
Price My Man Crush
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Enough with the jersey retirement, geez.
What's wrong with jersey retirements?
Yeah, our players can still use shapes and symbols.
I'd say it's possible. He'll likely just get a video tribute.
Price My Man Crush
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We've had too many of them in the last few years (since the 2004-2005 lockout) and there's no way Saku or Markov or whoever the **** you want is gonna get theirs retired within the next few years.
Being true and loyal to your team is not enough. What has Markov actually won in the NHL, please tell me.
MXD
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From the OP
Add a Stanley Cup to that. Pretty close don't you think, considering both players teams?
DJ Breadman
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cups shouldn't matter, that depends on how good your gm is at assembling teams and Markov has not had a good one yet
If he wins the Cup, maybe. Otherwise he's just a very good defenceman that never won anything.
Kobe Armstrong
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I think what really hurt his jersey/hhof chances was that multi-season stretch where he barely played. He was still a top 10-15 d-man in the league at the time, and that seriously hurt whatever numbers he could have put up. Also 1.5 lockouts, he's had a great career, but unfortunately he was a little unlucky. If he wins a cup sure, but I wouldn't really consider him as one of the greats.
dackelljuneaubulis02
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yeah pretty much this. He got injured at a bad time. Pretty much at his peak. And had he not been injured that badly, he could still probably be up there. I really hope that he and Emelin being split up is good for both of them and Markov can get someone a bit more mobile and steady.
Stats are always great but stats can just prove longevity.
No Cups and no Norris trophies equal no jersey retirement. With a franchise like the Habs who only raise banners for Stanley Cups they have to keep that standard for jersey retirements.
On a side note I bet that half of the other teams in the NHL would retire a jersey of a defenceman who would put up the same numbers as Markov.
No Cups and no Norris trophies equal no jersey retirement. With a franchise like the Habs who only raise banners for Stanley Cups they have to keep that standard for jersey retirements.
On a side note I bet that half of the other teams in the NHL would retire a jersey of a defenceman who would put up the same numbers as Markov.
DenverHabsFan
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Hackett
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I tend to agree with you but I think the reality is that it bears considerable weight. It can tip the scales in Markov's favour when the decision comes to the margins. Cups just add to the reputation and the legend of a player.
He's got the other stats. Only Larry robinson will be heads and heels above him when all is said and done in the point categories
Phil Parent
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Which would make winning one even more of a big deal, since the chances of winning ain't 1 out of 6 anymore.
Retire #79????????!!!!!
No way!! (if it were up to me).
If we win a CUP...it'll be all about PK Subban and Price.
(and others will follow...Bourque, Weaver, Weise, and other playoff warriors that are hungry for the CUP... Markov still has to show way more in playoffs and he's aging fast and not getting any faster! turtle-slow!).
I'm just glad Markov is staying away from injuries for once!! (*knock on wood*).
(he's way too turtle-slow to talk about retiring his number...Cup or no Cup, and way to many full-season injuries and average play in playoffs, although I loved that bodycheck/hip-check to Lucic along the boards in recent playoffs...need to see more of that playoff-passion from him).
You retire jerseys when the players were PLAYOFF warriors (not just good in regular season). After all...it's all about winning a CUP (Roy, Chelios). If we had kept Chelios...his number would have been retired. Markov doesn't even come close to dmen like PK Subban and Chelios.
No way!! (if it were up to me).
If we win a CUP...it'll be all about PK Subban and Price.
(and others will follow...Bourque, Weaver, Weise, and other playoff warriors that are hungry for the CUP... Markov still has to show way more in playoffs and he's aging fast and not getting any faster! turtle-slow!).
I'm just glad Markov is staying away from injuries for once!! (*knock on wood*).
(he's way too turtle-slow to talk about retiring his number...Cup or no Cup, and way to many full-season injuries and average play in playoffs, although I loved that bodycheck/hip-check to Lucic along the boards in recent playoffs...need to see more of that playoff-passion from him).
You retire jerseys when the players were PLAYOFF warriors (not just good in regular season). After all...it's all about winning a CUP (Roy, Chelios). If we had kept Chelios...his number would have been retired. Markov doesn't even come close to dmen like PK Subban and Chelios.
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What about Gainey?
Maybe Markov can come back as GM and pull a Gainey and retire his own jersey.
What are you...ten years old? You ever seen Gainey play?
DenverHabsFan
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This board would never be the same without the petty insults.
Sure, saw him in his prime. We might as well retire Carbo's jersey if that's the standard.
