Proposal: If A Woodchuck Tkachuk Wood: OTT + STL + N.J.

[SenzZen]

how did you not incorporate Miles Wood into this?!

Or Blackwood!

 

[Profet]

I have a Sawchuk that says this doesn't happen.

 

[Domme90]

Wait one year and you can trade Kyrou for Tkachuck straight up.

 

[kthx]

IMO Sens fans are underrating Thomas and Kyrou heavily here.

 

[Perennial]

Don't think NJ pays a recent mid-1st for the full contract of Tarasenko. Dumping Johnsson is appealing but not really anything the Devils would spend a significant asset on either.

Change it to a 2nd and NJ is prob in.

Stillman was taken 29th

 

[westc2]

Hard pass from the Blues. Tkachuk isn't that much better than Kyrou or Thomas, definitely not worth giving up BOTH of them. Also people fail to realize Tarasenko hasn't really played in a couple years, only reason Seattle didn't take him for free is because they didn't wanna take the risk on his injury history. He's not a negative value, just an unknown risk with potentially huge upside.

 

[Mike Liut]

Guarantee Kyrou out scores Tkachuk this year

 

[Hivemind]

After seeing this thread title, I assumed Miles Wood would be involved in the trade somehow. I am disappointed.

 

[BleedBlue14]

There is just a fundamental disagreement on Tarasenko's value. Friedman reported that NJ was scared away but his medicals. They clearly don't value him that high, whereas STL still feels like he's a premium asset. If these teams were on the same page a deal would have been done months ago.

Dumping Johnsson would be nice but NJ is not going to give up a 1st or an equivalent asset for a guy whose health they aren't sold on. We signed Tatar for free and have plenty of young, cheap internal forward options like Foote, Mercer, Thompson, and Holtz.

NJ is ready to push for the playoffs, they wouldn't have brought in Hamilton and Graves and Tatar if they weren't, but they're not quite ready to swing for the fences yet. It would be much better for NJ to wait until February and see if they're still in the hunt, and if they are it would be much cheaper to flip some mid picks and a few of their numerous prospects for rentals.

I don’t think that STL thinks that Tarasenko is a still a premium asset. But at the same time. We’re in a win now mode. It doesn’t make much sense to trade an unknown asset who used to be a 35+ goal scorer for peanuts when we can’t really use the cap space elsewhere.

Tarasenko certainly isn’t a detriment to any team. His cap hit may be high but most teams have their cap space figured out going into the season by now. Taking a low risk chance on a guy who was a borderline superstar while healthy seems like a pretty good chance to take, with the Blues also thinking that way.

 

[Xspyrit]

IF it comes to trading Tkachuk, I wouldn't mind trading him for Thomas and Kyrou

Not sending White and a 2nd though and getting Johnsson though

Stutzle-Pinto-Kyrou
Formenton-Norris-Batherson
Paul-Thomas-Brown
Sanford-White-Watson
Tierney

White is paid twice what he's worth, and is signed to 4 more years. His contract may not be an issue this year or next, but it could become problematic in the future and should be jettisoned from the payroll as soon as possible

No, he's worth easily more than 2.375 per season. He's a very responsible player, he's not flashy by any means but make a lot of subtle plays that coaches will appreciate. His production has been down the last 2 years but still ~0.40 PPG which is still 33 pts per 82 games, decent 3rd line production. His advanced/defensive stats have been pretty good too. The vast majority of Sens fans think he's overpaid by ~1.25 (so worth 3.5). Like some have tried to explain, there's absolutely no point in getting rid of him as he won't bring any positive value. He is well liked by everybody, an honest worker and Chabot's best friend. The Sens aren't even at the cap floor right now, there's absolutely no reason to move him.

 

[Perennial]

IF it comes to trading Tkachuk, I wouldn't mind trading him for Thomas and Kyrou

Not sending White and a 2nd though and getting Johnsson though

Stutzle-Pinto-Kyrou
Formenton-Norris-Batherson
Paul-Thomas-Brown
Sanford-White-Watson
Tierney



No, he's worth easily more than 2.375 per season. He's a very responsible player, he's not flashy by any means but make a lot of subtle plays that coaches will appreciate. His production has been down the last 2 years but still ~0.40 PPG which is still 33 pts per 82 games, decent 3rd line production. His advanced/defensive stats have been pretty good too. The vast majority of Sens fans think he's overpaid by ~1.25 (so worth 3.5). Like some have tried to explain, there's absolutely no point in getting rid of him as he won't bring any positive value. He is well liked by everybody, an honest worker and Chabot's best friend. The Sens aren't even at the cap floor right now, there's absolutely no reason to move him.

If White were a UFA, I doubt he'd get anything above 2.5 million...

 

[Xspyrit]

If White were a UFA, I doubt he'd get anything above 2.5 million...

Stick to what you know...

But seriously, he's just 24 y/o, has played 3 seasons in the NHL, was 0.60 PPG in his rookie season when he played with good players and 0.40 PPG in a 3rd line role.

Alexander Kerfoot, Cal Clutterbuck, J.T. Compher, Brett Connolly, Brandon Tanev and Chris Tierney make 3.5 AAV, sounds about right

 

[Perennial]

Stick to what you know...

But seriously, he's just 24 y/o, has played 3 seasons in the NHL, was 0.60 PPG in his rookie season when he played with good players and 0.40 PPG in a 3rd line role.

Alexander Kerfoot, Cal Clutterbuck, J.T. Compher, Brett Connolly, Brandon Tanev and Chris Tierney make 3.5 AAV, sounds about right

All of them overpaid...

 

[Xspyrit]

All of them overpaid...

And........ that's where you problem is. Don't worry, you're not the only one who doesn't understand how it works

The NHL salaries are decided by the "market", they obey to the market. Supply and demand.

The majority of NHL players can't be overpaid, it doesn't make any sense.


Edit : So here are all the forwards paid 3.4 to 3.5

Alexander Kerfoot
Cal Clutterbuck
J.T. Compher
Brett Connolly
Brandon Tanev
Chris Tierney
Bryan Rust
Lars Eller
Micheal Ferland
Joel Armia
Andreas Johnsson
Paul Byron

Are they all overpaid? Except Rust who will get a pretty nice raise. I'd say Eller is also worth all his money

 

[Ranksu]

That’s so terrible for Ottawa. Woof.

A St Louis fan definitely made this trade proposal.

Tarasenko is still very negative value.

Never ever seen that member in Blues board.