McKenzie: I get the feeling Matthews & Marner want to wait until next summer to sign

[poolparty98]

That story about a rift between Matthews and Babcock is complete crap and it's only been reported by John Shannon who has a history of being wrong when it comes to the Leafs. No one like Bob McKenzie who is the most respected NHL Insider has reported this.

To me he doesn’t look happy in Toronto. Just my opinion, I think the leafs move on from this player, hence the hesitation to want to sign him long term.

 

[Riseonfire]

With the way the cap is increasing, I would wait too.

14% of the cap now =/= 14% of the cap next year. I think a similar situation is playing out with Tavares right now.

 

[DrJustice]

Seems like a smart business decision from both players.

Doesn't reflect on their loyalty to the fans or city at all and wouldn't really read into hearsay.

 

[Kranix]

Of course he's going home, it's the offseason and soon he will be back in Toronto and for long term of his career.

OEL
Strome
Keller

for matthews

Signs with Coyotes July 1 2019

 

[ACC1224]

To me he doesn’t look happy in Toronto. Just my opinion, I think the leafs move on from this player, hence the hesitation to want to sign him long term.

 

[LeafFever]

I really get Marner. He can be PPG next season. He was on a 100+ pace from jan 24th-on after getting more TOI and better linemates.

 

[LeafFever]

So Tavares ends up in Toronto and Matthews in Arizona seeing that all players want to play for their hometown team = )

They want to play for their hometown team if it is good.

 

[PuckInTheNards]

True, its only a matter of time before the Leafs relocate.

Montreal Maple Leafs - nice alliteration to it.

 

[Rob Brown]

To me he doesn’t look happy in Toronto. Just my opinion, I think the leafs move on from this player, hence the hesitation to want to sign him long term.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

The sheer notion of Toronto trading Matthews is so absurd but if they sign JT, it almost makes sense.

Toronto needs help on the blue line and trading Matthews for OEL, Strome, + whatever in addition to adding JT makes them a stronger team. Older....but stronger.

Leaf fans, and I really should make this a poll, which option sounds better.

1) Team stays the same

2) Team adds JT through FA and trades Matthews to Arizona for OEL and a pile?

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Smart to wait until next summer, given the cap increase this year and the potential to grow even more next year I can see both guys getting paid more than Eichel.

 

[gabeliscious]

The sheer notion of Toronto trading Matthews is so absurd but if they sign JT, it almost makes sense.

Toronto needs help on the blue line and trading Matthews for OEL, Strome, + whatever in addition to adding JT makes them a stronger team. Older....but stronger.

Leaf fans, and I really should make this a poll, which option sounds better.

1) Team stays the same

2) Team adds JT through FA and trades Matthews to Arizona for OEL and a pile?

There is zero chance the leafs trade matthews. A player not wanting to sign a year before he needs to does not mean he doesnt want to be in toronto

 

[Rob Brown]

The sheer notion of Toronto trading Matthews is so absurd but if they sign JT, it almost makes sense.

Toronto needs help on the blue line and trading Matthews for OEL, Strome, + whatever in addition to adding JT makes them a stronger team. Older....but stronger.

Leaf fans, and I really should make this a poll, which option sounds better.

1) Team stays the same

2) Team adds JT through FA and trades Matthews to Arizona for OEL and a pile?

Oh my goodness. Please just stop. If Leafs fans said that the Jets should trade Laine you would all lose your shit.

 

[poolparty98]

I don’t know if it was the problem with Babcock or other problems in the room. But his give a sh** meter was pretty low against Boston. Very evident to see. Just speculation on my part on why Leafs chose not to sign him long term this summer as reported by Bob McKenzie.

 

[ACC1224]

The sheer notion of Toronto trading Matthews is so absurd but if they sign JT, it almost makes sense.

Toronto needs help on the blue line and trading Matthews for OEL, Strome, + whatever in addition to adding JT makes them a stronger team. Older....but stronger.

Leaf fans, and I really should make this a poll, which option sounds better.

1) Team stays the same

2) Team adds JT through FA and trades Matthews to Arizona for OEL and a pile?

 

[ACC1224]

I don’t know if it was the problem with Babcock or other problems in the room. But his give a sh** meter was pretty low against Boston. Very evident to see. Just speculation on my part on why Leafs chose not to sign him long term this summer as reported by Bob McKenzie.

Most would speculate you haven't got a clue.
Good for laughs though, keep fishing.

 

[Rob Brown]

I don’t know if it was the problem with Babcock or other problems in the room. But his give a sh** meter was pretty low against Boston. Very evident to see. Just speculation on my part on why Leafs chose not to sign him long term this summer as reported by Bob McKenzie.

The name of the video where Bob said this is literally:

"McKenzie: I get the feeling Matthews & Marner want to wait until next summer to sign"

No mention of the Leafs not wanting to sign him long term this summer.

Keep trying.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Oh my goodness. Please just stop. If Leafs fans said that the Jets should trade Laine you would all lose your ****.

But if we traded Laine, signed Ovi, and traded Laine for a top tier d-man.....I wouldn't be ecstatic but there's no doubt that we would be a better team. It was a legit question.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

There is zero chance the leafs trade matthews. A player not wanting to sign a year before he needs to does not mean he doesnt want to be in toronto

And I am not saying that. I am saying, which situation would be better. You still have a number 1 center for (more than likely) the same price while shoring up the team in it's area of greatest weakness.

 

[Rob Brown]

But if we traded Laine, signed Ovi, and traded Laine for a top tier d-man.....I wouldn't be ecstatic but there's no doubt that we would be a better team. It was a legit question.

Okay, well we don't want to trade Matthews.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Okay, well we don't want to trade Matthews.

Again, I feel like people think I am on the troll train. No one wants to trade their star player but it's a very interesting notion to consider.

If you're able to replace your 1C with a 1C while getting a HUGE return back in the process, is it worth it?

 

[Rob Brown]

Again, I feel like people think I am on the troll train. No one wants to trade their star player but it's a very interesting notion to consider.

If you're able to replace your 1C with a 1C while getting a HUGE return back in the process, is it worth it?

No, you move another piece before him.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

No, you move another piece before him.

But then you severely diminish the return. You aren't getting a guy like OEL for Nylander or Marner. You also would be insane to have 2 10+ mil centers on the same team. I am aware that it worked for Pittsburgh.

 

[Hunter368]

Again, I feel like people think I am on the troll train. No one wants to trade their star player but it's a very interesting notion to consider.

If you're able to replace your 1C with a 1C while getting a HUGE return back in the process, is it worth it?

Fine to think about it if it fills a need, but I don’t see the Leafs doing that ever.

 

[Rob Brown]

But then you severely diminish the return. You aren't getting a guy like OEL for Nylander or Marner. You also would be insane to have 2 10+ mil centers on the same team. I am aware that it worked for Pittsburgh.

I didn't say the Leafs would get OEL for Nylander or Marner. I haven't brought up OEL once.