Martin was the biggest problem last year, that much is obvious. Subban, Price, Pacioretty, Plekanec and Gorges are all still there and I don't think they are below average.
It's how negative he always is with our team, for better or for worse. It irks me. He's calling us a terrible team before the team's played one game.
Yet the Habs were square in the mix of things until they fired him and nose-dived.
Obvious you say...Interesting take on it.
My thoughts exactly. I don't like Wilde much either but this team is fairly unchanged. I think the additions of Bouillion, Armstrong and Prust were ok but how much of an impact will they really make.The team is almost exactly the same as the one that finished with 3rd overall pick last season. Can't blame anyone for not expecting success.
In the mix of what? They lost like the first seven games of the season, in the mix for the first OA pick maybe. A losing streak like that kills an entire season, only the delusional think we had a chance afterwards.
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Are you even able to hold a conversation without calling someone names?
I'm not about to re-hash this old argument again nor look up the numbers, (and I strongly doubt you would actually take the time) but they were a few games out of the race and the most injured team in the league at the time. They were turning things around and getting bodies back. Saying they could have made the playoffs is anything but a reach. Saying the problem was "obviously" Martin is just blind hate for the guy. The team took a nose-dive to the bottom of the standings and was just a complete mess after he was fired yet he was obviously the problem?
Having said that, I don't mind the change in ideology and direction. I just think it was done at the worst possible time. I would have rather watch a playoff race than the worst debacle I have ever personally witnessed by a Habs team. They should have just kept status quo, or at least wait until he had a healthy team then at the end of the year if you want to move in another direction you do it.
What?
The fact we bombed last season has given us our best forward prospect since Saku Koivu. Had we kept status quo we'd be suffering another 5 yrs of mediocrity.
The Habs have some very good young players right now, we have a 5-10 year window to take advantage of most of them and we need to surround them. We still need 1 more top end forward prospect before I'm ready to start "buying".
A Gally-Barkov 1-2 punch would set us up for a long time.
I'd rather suffer through 2-3 years of being terrible and then be a perennial contender. We have the core to do this with a quick turnaround. Aiming to just make the playoffs was the reason why Gainey's tenure was so mediocre.
I don't disagree with that. Though I'm not going to get on any rookie bandwagon until I see what he does in the NHL. He does look like a special talent though.
And it's a matter of personal taste. I'd rather at least be in the playoffs than go through what Oilers fans are. But that's just me.
And my point was that I think we would have made the playoffs had they not fired Martin and that saying that is anything but delusional.
If you guys mean that Martin was the problem for not tanking then, yes, I agree
Are you even able to hold a conversation without calling someone names?
I'm not about to re-hash this old argument again nor look up the numbers, (and I strongly doubt you would actually take the time) but they were a few games out of the race and the most injured team in the league at the time. They were turning things around and getting bodies back. Saying they could have made the playoffs is anything but a reach. Saying the problem was "obviously" Martin is just blind hate for the guy. The team took a nose-dive to the bottom of the standings and was just a complete mess after he was fired yet he was obviously the problem?
Having said that, I don't mind the change in ideology and direction. I just think it was done at the worst possible time. I would have rather watch a playoff race than the worst debacle I have ever personally witnessed by a Habs team. They should have just kept status quo, or at least wait until he had a healthy team then at the end of the year if you want to move in another direction you do it.
I respect your view on it, we definitely don't see things the same way.
I think finishing bottom 10 again this season would be the best thing for our franchise moving forward. I say bottom 10 because we have the assets to move up to top 5 if Timmins has a man crush.
I think we will be in the hunt, as much as I don't want us to be.
I thought about that before, you convinced me.Go Brian Wilde Go!! (please remove the word ''hatred'' from the thread title! VERY VERY unfair to Brian Wilde, imo).
I could just as easily say you have some sort of sick blind love for the guy, it is just a way of writing off someones opinion.
Apparently there are no delusional people in the world, just jerks who call people delusional. If your feelings are so easily hurt maybe the internet is not for you.
The team took a nose dive AFTER he left and replaced with who? Good argument, blame the guy with zero nhl head coaching experience, that will make Martin look so much better. Why doesn't the wonderful Martin have teams lining up around the block for his services as head coach right now? Oh that's right this isn't 10 years ago.
If anything it was long overdo, he should have been canned in favour of Muller but I am glad it was done when it was done. Your "status quo" nonsense is very indicative of the Gainey era, nothing drastic ever done to get to the next level. Either limp into the playoffs on a wing and prayer or miss and get a middling prospect. Great options those are, working real well for Calgary.
I thought about that before, you convinced me.