Post-Game Talk: Hymanator shoots down the Jets

[EchoesoftheEighties]

His ridiculous stance at minimum makes you wonder. I was one of those called racist for not liking Singh's calls (I still don't like his call and f*** anyone that thinks that because he sucks that I am racist). Does anyone think that his dad still pl\ays for his training since he became a NHLer? I highly doubt it. Instead of saying that Hyman breaks the stereotype of privileged trust fund babies that never work a day in their lives and showcasing how great of a job his family did in raising him, he goes with this BS?

I posted this in the mains:

"I personally separate his political takes with his hockey ones as to me they are not related, nor should they be. As I mentioned earlier, I think he just wanted to have a hot take to generate interest.

Someone earlier mentioned why he didn't go after Sam Reinhart as an example...to me it's obvious. Edmonton is a major market when it comes to the NHL and NHL news. Going against the grain with a hot take will generate way more hits, clicks and attention than going after a player from the Florida Panthers, especially with the Canadian media. IMO the results so far speak for themselves because I had no idea who this guy was a week ago."


Honestly I truly think buddy just wanted to get his name out there. The vast majority of NHL players grow up rich, we know this. Making this a story to rain on Zach Hymans parade is just the easiest way to get out there.

Anyway I don't want to really get into it more, it's a thin line here between what is political and what isn't. Sorry BBO didn't mean to take it here.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Alt right is anything that disagrees with the lefist narrative (propaganda) propagated by the media.
Its ridiculous.

Wrong. This is what the red pilled conservatives WANT you to think.

It makes it easier to disassociate yourself from actual alt-right ideologues and their opinions when it’s dismissed as a talking point from your political opponent. That’s what’s ridiculous.

I can easily find several accounts on X that literally have “national socialist” in their bios. That is the alt-right. Those accounts and posts aren’t being taken down despite reports.

Now I will not go any further here. But if you want to discuss feel free to DM me.

 

[guymez]

I mean tell me where I’m wrong.

This was literally the first tweet I saw this morning in my “For you” section.



Click on this guy’s profile. What 4 words would you use to describe him?

And before you say it, I always report/block these sorts of tweets and even stuff that’s milder I use the feature to “show less tweets like this”. This means the algorithm is promoting this stuff over and above user preference.

I have no idea who that person is and I dont really care.

Free speech platforms are going to have opinions that you not only disagree with but that you might find upsetting or even offensive.
Its much better to have everything out in the open...so it can be debated and you have an opportunity to discredit and completely dismantle a point of view.
that way the truly offensive speech gets a light focussed on it for all to see. Having these offending opinions be dissasembled and discredited in full view makes it less likely to gather momentum from people with less ability to critically think.
That is the beauty of free speech.
Censorship forces these views underground. That allows them to propagate unchecked and unchallenged.
To call a platform (or any individual or group) that embraces free speech 'Alt right' is nothing more than gas lighting.

 

[brentashton]

I posted this in the mains:

"I personally separate his political takes with his hockey ones as to me they are not related, nor should they be. As I mentioned earlier, I think he just wanted to have a hot take to generate interest.

Someone earlier mentioned why he didn't go after Sam Reinhart as an example...to me it's obvious. Edmonton is a major market when it comes to the NHL and NHL news. Going against the grain with a hot take will generate way more hits, clicks and attention than going after a player from the Florida Panthers, especially with the Canadian media. IMO the results so far speak for themselves because I had no idea who this guy was a week ago."


Honestly I truly think buddy just wanted to get his name out there. The vast majority of NHL players grow up rich, we know this. Making this a story to rain on Zach Hymans parade is just the easiest way to get out there.

Anyway I don't want to really get into it more, it's a thin line here between what is political and what isn't. Sorry BBO didn't mean to take it here.

And maybe he didn’t rant on Sam Reinhart because his political and hockey views are related and intertwined as part of his whole being. I’d find it very difficult to believe he could separate these types of held beliefs.

He’s not saying it explicitly, all one can do is take the sum of his public tweets and conclude as one wants.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Yeah I’m in the middle on him as well. He’s shown a lot of improvement this year.



I’d use the term journalist very loosely.

From what I can tell, the guy is not a journalist at all - by that I mean someone actually trained in the profession. Looks like a fan blogger who ran a Canadiens website who 'came of age' during the Wild West phase of analytics which gave an outsized voice to peeps preaching the New Word.

Though per Linked In it does look like he has at least one industry credential:

Construction Safety Training System​

Brent Schneider, Alberta Construction Safety Association​

Really a toady take on a significant milestone by a lunch bucket player who's worked for an NHL career and then outworked everyone else to do the hardest thing in the game at a rate that is rare to achieve. No mention of the other new 50 goal guy who came from similar privilege background and son of a past player. As others are pointing out, there are likely other agendas being served here. It's a mindless distraction from a high character person who leveraged minimal abilities to maximum effect against the best competition in the world.

 

[Drivesaitl]

61-28 with roughly a .910 save pct. the last 2 seasons.
"Acceptable backup". Uh huh

I think we can all agree that Skinner has his flaws and is not among the elite in the league but to say he's just a backup is pure rubbish, sorry it is. He's pretty much an average starting goalie in this league. He's really good at making the basic saves (almost elite at this) and struggles with the true high danger chances. Add all that up and he amounts to about average at this point in his career. If you can name even 15-20 better goalies the last 2 seasons I'd love to hear it, or if you think he's just a backup I'd love for you to list the 30+ goalies that have been better than him the last two seasons.

I think one has to factor that Skinner IS the Oilers goalie. We're the Oilers, the most dangerous scoring team, with the most dangerous scoring talent in the league. Skinner never has to face the Oilers except in practice. So that every other NHL goalie is having a bit harder work because they do occasionally face the Oilers. Take Korpisalo, another average goalie. It was kind of funny because the telecast started out suggesting that Korp was bad against Oilers and creating a narrative the Oilers burned him alive or something. As the game progressed the observations of the telecast landed to how many 5 bell saves Korp was pulling off. Very clearly Korpi was the better of the two goalies last game and he was in playoffs too. One has to look beyond just the stats, but looking at what variety and difficulty of saves are being made, and who are the goalies stoning? Facing Drai, McD, Hyman etc is the biggest challenge in the world that any goalie faces. Hellebuck last night had to make stupendous saves to keep the game even close for his club. He's making those stops against 50 goal pedigree goal scorers.

Additionally the Oilers have players like Perry, Kane, Henrique, Nuge etc that have scored a lot of goals in this league, all on the same club.

In observation of goalies its almost never considered that the opposition goalie is facing a much bigger task because they are facing the Oilers arsenal. How do you or others think, really, that Skinner would look playing against the Oilers top guns?

The Oilers, and even more their PP are a nightmare consideration for opponent goalies.

 

[EchoesoftheEighties]

And maybe he didn’t rant on Sam Reinhart because his political and hockey views are related and intertwined as part of his whole being. I’d find it very difficult to believe he could separate these types of held beliefs.

He’s not saying it explicitly, all one can do is take the sum of his public tweets and conclude as one wants.

That does a lot of assuming though based on political opinions. Maybe he is Anti semetic, maybe he isn't, that ultimately is up for debate (somewhere that isn't here). I don't think the label should be thrown out so loosely just for having a clown take on Zach Hyman, it's a slippery slope.

Also being critical of a government does not mean you view their people a certain way, otherwise half of this country is in a constant state of hating itself.


Anyways big win against the Jets. Good stuff

 

[Mav3rick07]

Connor Brown has 3 goals in his last 7 games. He picked a great time of the seasoon to finally produce.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Within the last six months I had to put my cat to sleep, lost my last remaining grandparent and now my mother. It's been tough but mom raised a tough family. We'll be okay and while I'm sad she's gone, I'm happy she's free of pain and suffering.

My condolences Keith. I remembered you had to put your cat down. I think I recall you losing others as well as your mom in the last while. Makes it feel like a community here when people can and do share their grieving and loss.

 

[guymez]

Connor Brown has 3 goals in his last 7 games. He picked a great time of the seasoon to finally produce.

I agree.
He is also starting to look like a player with confidence so the other parts of his game look better as well.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Connor Brown has 3 goals in his last 7 games. He picked a great time of the seasoon to finally produce.

We were all getting sarcastic when we said he’d pick up production for the playoffs.

Well, maybe we shouldn’t be so sarcastic anymore.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

My condolences Keith. I remembered you had to put your cat down. I think I recall you losing others as well as your mom in the last while. Makes it feel like a community here when people can and do share their grieving and loss.

Thanks Drive. I know I don't get along with many people here but sometimes it's nice to just vent some things on a forum like this.

Mom fought many battles in her life. She beat cancer twice and was beating it a third time before a case of pnuemonia, or something in her lungs, snatched her away. It's unfortunately very cruel.

Things like hockey don't really matter much in life but it is a nice distraction and seeing them win last night did make the night a little brighter.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Did Tyler Toffoli play yesterday? quiet as a mouse

 

[Drivesaitl]

That does a lot of assuming though based on political opinions. Maybe he is Anti semetic, maybe he isn't, that ultimately is up for debate (somewhere that isn't here). I don't think the label should be thrown out so loosely just for having a clown take on Zach Hyman, it's a slippery slope.

Also being critical of a government does not mean you view their people a certain way, otherwise half of this country is in a constant state of hating itself.


Anyways big win against the Jets. Good stuff

I would say already in the thread a difference has been noted between the verbal interview where he is trying to avoid a political specific stance, and in his tweets where he is making his political stance clear. I'm not going to go much further than that but certainly could. Berkshire himself is engaging in slippery slope. That seems not understood.

 

[frag2]

And maybe he didn’t rant on Sam Reinhart because his political and hockey views are related and intertwined as part of his whole being. I’d find it very difficult to believe he could separate these types of held beliefs.

He’s not saying it explicitly, all one can do is take the sum of his public tweets and conclude as one wants.

When Jack Hughes scores 50, lets revisit lol

 

[Mr Kot]

Essentially what Hyman turned out to be is what most parents with money would want out of their son or daughter.

Someone that was given the opportunity to do what they wanted and put in the effort to get there and became a successful respectful human.

I honestly don't see the difference between a rich family spending their money on their kid in sports vs sending your kid to the best universities to become a doctor or dentist or scientist etc..

We seem to be in an Era where a lot of people automatically assume rich person = uncaring and lazy. You see it with people doing that here too, someone going through a tough personal issue and people go straight to "oh he's rich he'll be fine".

 

[Drivesaitl]

Thanks Drive. I know I don't get along with many people here but sometimes it's nice to just vent some things on a forum like this.

Mom fought many battles in her life. She beat cancer twice and was beating it a third time before a case of pnuemonia, or something in her lungs, snatched her away. It's unfortunately very cruel.

Things like hockey don't really matter much in life but it is a nice distraction and seeing them win last night did make the night a little brighter.

My mother had the same end. First strokes, longterm one side paralysis, secondary infections, Cancer, and then a combination of things. WE got to say goodbye to her at least and that was something. My dad passed when we were on vacation, far away, and suddenly, and unexpectedly. He got his wish to remain his days in the house he built with his two hands and go suddenly but it was harder in some way, never got a chance to say goodbye of any sort. I was more my dads son so that was harder in someway. They say the first parent passing is harder but for me it was dad. Do you still have your dad?

When Jack Hughes scores 50, lets revisit lol

If Jack Hughes ever scores 50 I'll rant enough for everybody.

But I don't have to worry about that. NHL is already correcting for his size and he's being more tentative being in prime scoring areas.

 

[Mr Kot]

Thanks Drive. I know I don't get along with many people here but sometimes it's nice to just vent some things on a forum like this.

Mom fought many battles in her life. She beat cancer twice and was beating it a third time before a case of pnuemonia, or something in her lungs, snatched her away. It's unfortunately very cruel.

Things like hockey don't really matter much in life but it is a nice distraction and seeing them win last night did make the night a little brighter.

That is a tough tough lady. Don't think of it as her passing on, think of it finally getting the rest she worked hard for and deserves.

 

[Frank the Tank]

Did Tyler Toffoli play yesterday? quiet as a mouse

Only time I noticed him was when he tried to do the McDavid short side corner shot on the PP near the end of regulation. Otherwise, he was a non-factor last night.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Did Tyler Toffoli play yesterday? quiet as a mouse

I noticed that too. What people didn't get is he becomes more of player when he's the guy, when he's the shotgun. Toffoli was good in LA but never the guy, and so his production and performance there was good, never great. Put him on weak teams like Habs and Flames and he's a guy in the mix, in the plays, getting top looks, top PP, getting lots of minutes and being able to be the star. Put him on a team somewhat deep and he kind of is just there.

At times I wanted Toffoli here but he wouldn't be as good here as he was in Montreal and Calgary. He might not be in Winnipeg either.

Winnipeg suffers from having a lot of players that can score but nobody that is an elite talent. Well, Hellebuck, but thats it. You can see how the team fails when guys like Ehlers are on a clear breakaway and so lacking confidence they shoot wide. None of the jets look really sharp with shots. Lots of shooting wide or not getting all of it. Jets are not confident shooting right now.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Andrew Birkshire beaked off on TikiTok about it. It was very pathetic and stank of "You should have seen me in Highschool" Uncle Rice energy.

I never heard of this clown until today. Hopefully we never hear from him again.

 

[alanschu]

“Friendly fire” high stick, for added clarity.

Thanks!

 

[EchoesoftheEighties]

I never heard of this clown until today. Hopefully we never hear from him again.

"Follow on tik tok and Instagram for more!"

Says enough for me. Let's stop giving this clown attention

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

That is a tough tough lady. Don't think of it as her passing on, think of it finally getting the rest she worked hard for and deserves.

That's definitely one of the things I'm taking away from this. No more chemo, appointments, tests, needles, pills or anything of the sort.

My mother had the same end. First strokes, longterm one side paralysis, secondary infections, Cancer, and then a combination of things. WE got to say goodbye to her at least and that was something. My dad passed when we were on vacation, far away, and suddenly, and unexpectedly. He got his wish to remain his days in the house he built with his two hands and go suddenly but it was harder in some way, never got a chance to say goodbye of any sort. I was more my dads son so that was harder in someway. They say the first parent passing is harder but for me it was dad. Do you still have your dad?


If Jack Hughes ever scores 50 I'll rant enough for everybody.

But I don't have to worry about that. NHL is already correcting for his size and he's being more tentative being in prime scoring areas.

Dad is still with us. I told him I'd move in with him for a while until things are a bit more settled. Mom fought so many battles and sadly this was one battle too many for someone who's had health problems for the past 30+ years. Chron's disease really took a lot out of her immune system but she fought until the very end. We all got to say goodbye to her, as painful as it was.

My dad too lost his mother (my grandmother) in January and now his wife... He's been hit so hard so he'll have the support of me and my brother for as long as he needs. That house of his is going to be pretty lonely, hence why I've moved in temporarily.

 

[Drivesaitl]

We seem to be in an Era where a lot of people automatically assume rich person = uncaring and lazy. You see it with people doing that here too, someone going through a tough personal issue and people go straight to "oh he's rich he'll be fine".

Hyman has had gifts in life. But he's made it a life long mission to share his gifts with others and on and off the ice. Such people are inspirations to all, if not the human spirit. In an era where the world can seem so consumed with fashion, fad, materialism, strife its nice to have some examples like Hyman of people that strive for common good. His purpose in life apparently being to make others smile.

A good example for all.