Prospect Info: Hurricanes Prospect Info and Discussion - Part VII - Cliff Pu and other shit
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Apparently he had back issues and a broken season in Jukurit. The back is good now, his agent made USHL sound like the best option with the small rink and all. Also the Hurricanes organization recommended USHL for him.
Also he spent the last summer training in Turku with the Finn physics guru Rautala group with guys like Rantanen and Laine. It's not bad company to train in I guess.
Apparently he had back issues and a broken season in Jukurit. The back is good now, his agent made USHL sound like the best option with the small rink and all. Also the Hurricanes organization recommended USHL for him.
Also he spent the last summer training in Turku with the Finn physics guru Rautala group with guys like Rantanen and Laine. It's not bad company to train in I guess.
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DaveG
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yeah they're making the tourney, so much for getting him signed in the next couple weeks.
Good. No pressure to find room for him in Raleigh while we are trying to make the playoffs.
bleedgreen
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Yeah that would be interesting. Hard to see Rod pulling out a vet for the kid, injuries might help that but eventually everyone healthy and there’s no way a vet will get sat in these games.
Good experience for Fox to be in the tourney.
Good experience for Fox to be in the tourney.
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It's good thing that his ELC is bound to end at the same time either way (and a year early compared to the college UFA route) whether he is signed in this spring or the next. There is no pressure to get him done from that at least.
Adam Fox is probably the first dman ever to lead the NCAA in pts/gp and he even played a full season!
Disclaimer: I only went through like 30 years in EP.
But what I'm saying is that he is a special player and I think the majority of our fanbase underrates him severely.
I'd definitely not rank Bean above him, I think Fox is both more NHL ready and also has the higher potential.
I also find it very interesting that in Calgary he said that he wants to focus on school, but after he was traded to us, he said that he wants to make NHL as soon as possible.
Disclaimer: I only went through like 30 years in EP.
But what I'm saying is that he is a special player and I think the majority of our fanbase underrates him severely.
I'd definitely not rank Bean above him, I think Fox is both more NHL ready and also has the higher potential.
I also find it very interesting that in Calgary he said that he wants to focus on school, but after he was traded to us, he said that he wants to make NHL as soon as possible.
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RodTheBawd
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What makes you say that? Because he's lighting up the NCAA?
bleedgreen
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Yeah while it’s awesome Fox has put up a special year in production it’s really hard to say what will translate moving up. I feel he got a lot of his points being a pro qb, which is good for us especially as a righty but watching the tape I’ve seen I don’t know how great his shot is. He definitely distributes well. I’ll be curious to watch him in the tourney for sure against the best competition.
He’s not a big fella, there are questions about how great a skater he is, and points in the ncaa are exceesingly difficult to evaluate in terms predicting nhl success. Does he defend well at all? Does he turn the puck over a lot? We don’t know. All we have is a stat line. You can’t rate a stat line over Bean playing well as a pro right now.
Maybe he’ll step right into the NHL but it seems more likely he’ll need some time to adapt. As usual, I hope I’m wrong.
More important is whether or not he ever had any intention of signing for us. We’ll know that pretty soon.
He’s not a big fella, there are questions about how great a skater he is, and points in the ncaa are exceesingly difficult to evaluate in terms predicting nhl success. Does he defend well at all? Does he turn the puck over a lot? We don’t know. All we have is a stat line. You can’t rate a stat line over Bean playing well as a pro right now.
Maybe he’ll step right into the NHL but it seems more likely he’ll need some time to adapt. As usual, I hope I’m wrong.
More important is whether or not he ever had any intention of signing for us. We’ll know that pretty soon.
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Well I mean NCAA is pretty much already full of men, so it's not like he has dominated against kids. Will Butcher made NHL straight from NCAA and had even pretty good rookie season and Fox is much better.
He scored this season the highest pts/gp by U21 dman in NCAA since 95/96, has impressed in USNTDP, U18, U20 and dominated NCAA.
Meanwhile Jake Bean was fairly mediocre in juniors, WJC and even his AHL season while good, isn't that noteworthy.
And I also dont think there is huge gap between NCAA and AHL.
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Bean season is easily better than Fox lol.
RodTheBawd
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Yep, gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you pretty mightily here.
How exactly?
It's much closer to men than for sure Juniors. And sure there is a gap in skill level, but it's not huge at all, you are free to disagree.
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bleedgreen
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I’m not trying to be dismissive, I like you’re bullish on the kid but I watched Will Butcher quite a bit his last year and I have no idea how you know or think Fox is better. I would hope it’s not just points.
Butcher stepped back this year but definitely was an impact player his rookie year as well.
Using world juniors to support your argument is just weak
Alright? You can ignore that part, doesnt make much of a difference.
Didnt realise this was so controversial opinion here lol.
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Nice highlight real of Fox's goals, assists, and him scratching his hair from this season.
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Why do you think his hair was a healthy scratch?
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Not sure if this is posted somewhere else.. Jake Bean made NHL 19 HUT Offensive Team of the Year!
NHL® 19 Hockey Ultimate Team™ – HUT Team of the Year Event – EA SPORTS™ Official Site
NHL® 19 Hockey Ultimate Team™ – HUT Team of the Year Event – EA SPORTS™ Official Site
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Necas continues his hot streak. 4 games, 4 goals.
He has 2 tonight.
Bean and Geekie adding to their totals as they both assisted on both goals.
He has 2 tonight.
Bean and Geekie adding to their totals as they both assisted on both goals.
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