How many goals for Ovechkin

yangmang

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because your saying 30 goals and he isnt consistent and the last time he was under 32 goals in a season was well uh never in his career
i just think hell get more assists like go on an assist rampage. im not saying he wont get any points
 

hockeykicker

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i just think hell get more assists like go on an assist rampage. im not saying he wont get any points

he needs 15 goals in 58 games to get to your 30. the odds of him not doing that is pretty close to 0% (barring injury)

But back to your inconsistent point, how is he inconsistent? he has 32 plus goals in every year of his career even in the 48 game season
 

yangmang

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he needs 15 goals in 58 games to get to your 30. the odds of him not doing that is pretty close to 0% (barring injury)

But back to your inconsistent point, how is he inconsistent? he has 32 plus goals in every year of his career even in the 48 game season
i meant his number arent consistent for seasons. sometimes he scores 30+ then 50+ then 30+ again and so on. so you never know
 

txpd

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i meant his number arent consistent for seasons. sometimes he scores 30+ then 50+ then 30+ again and so on. so you never know
If you watched him year in and out you would notice that he has a run of like 20 goals in 20 games almost every season. Its usually in the late December/ January. Period when it starts. His 1st 29 to 30 games add always like this
 
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yangmang

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If you watched him year in and out you would notice that he has a run of like 29 goals UN 20 games almost every season. Its usually in the late December/ January. Period when it starts. His 1st 29 to 30 games add always like this
dont you think he is past his prime. his production has been declining EVERY SINGLE SEASON SINCE THE 2012-13 season
 

hockeykicker

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dont you think he is past his prime. his production has been declining EVERY SINGLE SEASON SINCE THE 2012-13 season

I mean all one had to do was just look up his stats to show that you were wrong.
I see 3 50 goal seasons, and all those seasons are within 12 points overall

oh and look at those ppg seasons. i see 3 in 5 years and hes almost at a ppg this year

2012-2013WSH483224562361627004022014.50
2013-2014WSH78512879-354824390110338613.266.67
2014-2015WSH81532881105825340011039513.440
2015-2016WSH7950217121531924008239812.60
2016-2017WSH823336696501726007231310.50
2017-2018WSH2415722-11047001111313.350
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Zuluss

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dont you think he is past his prime. his production has been declining EVERY SINGLE SEASON SINCE THE 2012-13 season

If we extrapolate the goals from 12-13 to full season, his goals will look like this - 55-51-53-50-33. Hard to see a trend aside from an injury-caused blip last season. Of course, OV has to decline eventually, but it is not in the numbers yet. And yes, he can get injured again, the probability of that also increases with age. But aside from an injury, 40 goals for OV this season seem like a safe bet.

i meant his number arent consistent for seasons. sometimes he scores 30+ then 50+ then 30+ again and so on. so you never know

Injuries happen, alas. But aside from the two seasons when OV had a wrist injury, there is only 1 season in 10 when OV did not break 40, and even then he was 2 goals away.
If you look at other big-time goal-scorers (Bossy, Gretzky, Richard, Howe, Hulls), you will see the same amount of variance, if not more.

An interesting fact: only 7 players in NHL history scored 30+ goals for 12+ consecutive seasons (Gartner, Jagr, Gretzky, Dionne, Esposito, Bobby Hull, Ovechkin). Only Bobby Hull and Ovechkin were not helped in that by the high-scoring era of the 70s and 80s.
 

txpd

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dont you think he is past his prime. his production has been declining EVERY SINGLE SEASON SINCE THE 2012-13 season

2012/13. 32 goals in 48 games
13-14 51 goals in 78 games
14-15 53 in 81 games
15-16 50 goals in 79 games.

this declining EVERY SINGLE SEASON SINCE THE 12-13 season you speak of. care to point that out? Please?? He had an off season last season. Where do you see a trend exactly?
 

yangmang

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I mean all one had to do was just look up his stats to show that you were wrong.
I see 3 50 goal seasons, and all those seasons are within 12 points overall

oh and look at those ppg seasons. i see 3 in 5 years and hes almost at a ppg this year
i was talking about his point production not goals
 

Frosty415

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OV is 3rd in the league with the worst team out of the top 3 currently.

The Isles are playing better than the caps lately, however if the cap scan turn it around.. I can see OV hitting at least 45 goals.
 

Jauffre

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You can fit approx. 5 chickens into an oven
(5) chickens multiplied (x) by his jersey# (8) = 40 goals
(40) minus (-) his waist size (37 in.) = 3
Half-life 3 confirmed
 

dar112

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An interesting fact: only 7 players in NHL history scored 30+ goals for 12+ consecutive seasons (Gartner, Jagr, Gretzky, Dionne, Esposito, Bobby Hull, Ovechkin). Only Bobby Hull and Ovechkin were not helped in that by the high-scoring era of the 70s and 80s.
Zuluss, Yesterday

I would say Bobby Hull, Jagr and Ovechkin were not helped in that by the high-scoring era of the 70s and 80s.

One thing is that Jagr has not played in the 70s and 80s in NHL.
If we go more in detail then although the high-scoring era of the 70s and 80s in reality lasted till the early 90s, it has not really affected Jagr's 12+ consecutive 30+ goal scoring seasons. Jagr scored 30+ goals in 15 consecutive seasons between 1991 and 2007. While the first 3 of these seasons were still in the high-scoring era, the remaining 12 (which is the defining amount that you selected, to match the number of seasons with 30+ goals scored/played by OV so far) were already in not-so-high-scoring era. In 1994-95 Jagr was 2nd in goal-scoring with 32 goals and there were only 5 players reaching 30+ goals in that season (obviously mainly due to lock-out shortened period, with only 48 games played per team, but still, it was not anymore the high-scoring era of late 70s, 80s and early 90s). In 1995-1996 Jagr was 2nd in goal-scoring with 62 goals and there were 43 players reaching 30+ goals that season (if you think that 43 players reaching 30+ goals is too much then please note that in 2005-2006 - a season that count both for Jagr and also for OV for reaching 12+ consecutive 30+ goals seasons - there were 47 players who scored 30+ goals). And at the latest in 1996-97 full-blown dead puck era starts (in 96-97 there were only 32 players reaching 30+ goals, in 97-98 there were only 21 players reaching 30+ goals etc.), so these seasons certainly cannot be counted as high-scoring era.

Obviously I do not want to say by that at all that Jagr is a better goal-scorer than OV. On the opposite - as for goal-scoring, OV is clearly better.
 

Alexander the Gr8

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the quality of always being the same. do you really think ovechkin at age 32 is going to get any better

Hasn't Ovechkin been roughly the same for the past few years after the lockout? He was good for 50 goals and 70-80 points every year except last year when his goal production dipped.

Consistency has nothing to do with Ovechkin's expected production. He has been consistent, but the future remains unknown. If we project his point totals for the rest of the year, he will end the season with 51 goals and 75 points. That's perfectly in line with his production in the past 5 years.
 

yangmang

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Hasn't Ovechkin been roughly the same for the past few years after the lockout? He was good for 50 goals and 70-80 points every year except last year when his goal production dipped.

Consistency has nothing to do with Ovechkin's expected production. He has been consistent, but the future remains unknown. If we project his point totals for the rest of the year, he will end the season with 51 goals and 75 points. That's perfectly in line with his production in the past 5 years.
backstrom is also getting older so that will impact as well
 

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