I would put Edmundson (2011, 2nd round) Parayko (2012, round 3) as closer to home run picks, Schwartz and Tarasenko were first rounders and great picks for the draft position. Dunn (2nd rd 2015) and Fabbri (1st rd 2014) are TBD with injury and not enough time in NHL. Ben Bishop and Jake Allen were both great picks.Naming guys that look like homerun picks for the Blues.
Schwartz, Tarasenko, Edmundson, Parayko, Fabbri, Dunn. Those are mid first and up guys that were picked by the current staff iirc, and have made an impact with the big club
There are some guys that look like gems in the pipeline Walman, Husso, Kyrou, Kostin, Thomas....maybe Blais(he's a 6th round pick thats played a few games in the NHL)
Yeah - I'm going to agree with this. Parayko is absolutely a huge get in the third round and absolutely a home run.This might be the loftiest expectation for what a homerun is. I mean, the ball could barely go over the wall, or clear out the park. In either case, that batter is walking to home plate.
I mean, Parayko isn't just a 3rd rounder, he's someone who waited 10 rounds to hear his name called. Him and Edmundson were in the same draft year in 2011, but Edmundson was drafted in the 2nd round. Parayko was completely ignored until the 3rd of the following year. And yet, Parayko has solidified himself as a top-4 defenseman, making it possible to trade a 45+ point defensemen, plays 20+ minutes a night, and is still well ahead of "homerun" Edmundson as a defenseman. And this is all coming from someone who is much more critical of Parayko than most Blues fans.
Sure, it's your opinion, but I'd really like to know what a homerun pick is to you if Parayko can't fit the bill.
As a Canucks fan, I've been thrilled with the performance of Jim Benning at the draft table.
By my estimation he has hit homeruns on the following players:
Brock Boeser
Elias Pettersson
Thatcher Demko
Adam Gaudette
Nikita Tryamkin
My question to you is, how many draft homeruns has your GM hit and who are they?
This doesn't make sense...Edmundson has faltered just as much, he cant establish himself next to Petro so he gets getting pushed back down. We all know Parayko isn't going to outplay Pietrangleo. Parayko has just as many pts ad Edmundson this year and always outscores him...by double last year and triple the year before. He's also a better defenseman. I don't see how you can be comfortable with Edmundson being a homerun pick but Parayko isn't....other then Parayko not meeting fan expectations of a 50pt+ monster dman. If Parayko is nothing more then a 40pt/20min+ all situations Dman....He's easily a top 10 redraftee. That is absolutely a homerun pick in the 3rd roundI am just more into proven talent and this is one of those cases. I value defenseman differently than most people and Edmundson has "it" defensively and can chip in on offense and most importantly, he is consistent. What made Parayko so impressive right off the bat hasn't been so impressive and we have seen his game falter a lot more recently. Again, I am not saying he is bad or he is not a top 4... I am not even saying he is not a homerun. I think you said it best that the batter is walking home. I just don't think the ball is quite over the wall yet.
Werenski
Bjorkstrand
Carlsson
Nutivarra
Milano
PLD
Garikov
Abramov
Pretty happy
But its not just about scoring. As I said Edmundson has been a lot more consistent as well. I'll say it again, I am just personally not ready to call Parayko a homerun pick YET.This doesn't make sense...Edmundson has faltered just as much, he cant establish himself next to Petro so he gets getting pushed back down. We all know Parayko isn't going to outplay Pietrangleo. Parayko has just as many pts ad Edmundson this year and always outscores him...by double last year and triple the year before. He's also a better defenseman. I don't see how you can be comfortable with Edmundson being a homerun pick but Parayko isn't....other then Parayko not meeting fan expectations of a 50pt+ monster dman. If Parayko is nothing more then a 40pt/20min+ all situations Dman....He's easily a top 10 redraftee. That is absolutely a homerun pick in the 3rd round
Wtf...I agree. Benning has done amazing in the draft. Kole Lind is looking like another stud
In before someone mentions Virtanen over Nylander/Ehlers or Juolevi over Tkachuk to try and discredit all his other great picks.
Wtf.......Wtf...
Benning has been abysmal in the draft. A dozen good games from Boeser doesn't cancel out Virtanen, Juolevi, and all the other bad choices.
Wtf...
Benning has been abysmal in the draft. A dozen good games from Boeser doesn't cancel out Virtanen, Juolevi, and all the other bad choices.
Snow had some nice picks, not sure if they all qualify as home runs.
Lee
Nelson
Barzal
Hamonic
Martin
Cizikas
Bob Murray drafted Anaheim's defense.
/mic drop
I don't know what the OP means with "homerun", but...
Fowler, Lindholm, Vatanen, Manson, Montour.
Also 51 pts in 78 games J. Schultz (yeah, not a home run), and Toronto's no.1 elite defenseman Jake Gardiner.
What's a homerun pick anyway?
As a Canucks fan, I've been thrilled with the performance of Jim Benning at the draft table.
By my estimation he has hit homeruns on the following players:
Brock Boeser
Elias Pettersson
Thatcher Demko
Adam Gaudette
Nikita Tryamkin
My question to you is, how many draft homeruns has your GM hit and who are they?
Gostisbehere??Homerun:
Johnny Hockey
Colton Parayko
Jacob Slavin
PK Subban
Nikita Kucherov
Vincent Trocheck
Brayden Point
Man you sure are getting super defensive about Parayko. I love the guy, I am a Blues fan. But he has regressed. I don't care if "anyone besides" me call's it a home run. I wouldn't... yet.
It's talent based on pick # without playing any games? I think your translation of it and what others are is different. Players are normally drafted in an order based on their talent level with minor adjustment to team needs. Fabbri has been injured a lot. God forbid but lets say he never plays another NHL game. Is that really a home run of a pick? Yeah he had great talent for the minimal time he played in the NHL but how is that a home run of a pick? Again, like I said, lots of random players have had a good few games or even a good season and a half but then fell off the face of the earth. Happens all the time.
They aren't home runs... yet. Could care less if you agree with me, it's an opinion.
He is hesitating a lot and not getting many shots in and his passes are off a lot more often.He hasn't regressed.. Yeo is consistently pushing out Tarasenko - Schwartz - Schenn -Petro - LHD for every offensive zone start he can... Parayko is at a 43 ozs% Essentially while you may believe he is regressing if you look at point totals this goes hand in hand with the opportunity he's been having. He's still holding a 30 point pace at the moment while playing primarily in the defensive end very well. If you would have told me anyone available could step right on and become a top 4 RHD with as much potential as the kid has and being picked in the 3rd round I'd say you're crazy.
Just like Monhan, and Tkachuk DON'T cancel out Poirier, Klimchuk and Bennett.
He's got people to do that for him. Just ask Lupul.I don't think Lou's back could handle swinging a bat.
He is hesitating a lot and not getting many shots in and his passes are off a lot more often.
Again, I am not saying he is bad or anything of the sort. But he hasn't been playing as good as he did early last season. Also again, it's not all about points.
No doubt he will get over that hump. He is a special player and will be a homerun soon enoughWell yeah I do agree with the fact that he's hesitating. But you also have to understand this is the first year the defensemen have been under Yeo's new system of activating as opposed to Hitch's stay at home philosophies. I'm going to go ahead and guess that Colt is struggling between instincts and structure right now. He will be completely fine when he gets over that hump.
That makes no sense.... If Aho was known to be a homerun, 30 teams including the Canes themselves would have selected him in the 1st round!
I mean explain why: Yakupov, Filatov, L.Schenn werent homeruns and Aho was? Theres absolutely no logic here.