Newsday: How Jon Ledecky plans to make the Islanders a ‘world-class organization’

[PWJunior]

They'd have to be quite ... naive, if that were the case. I know nothing about soccer (football to our European friends), but if I had the money and bought Manchester United, even with my limited knowledge I'd likely think about making a change in management if my team kept failing under the current guy.

The Isles are not Manchester United, unlimited money and resources. We are a transient franchise stuck between 2 homes that both suck and our new home years away and still more of fart in the wind than anything concrete.

I think the whole staff should go, but this is an unattractive job and situation. We can throw out names, but no one is coming here. Neither are free agents if JT leaves and we're still unattractive even if he does stay.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

The Isles are not Manchester United, unlimited money and resources. We are a transient franchise stuck between 2 homes that both suck and our new home years away and still more of fart in the wind than anything concrete.

I think the whole staff should go, but this is an unattractive job and situation. We can throw out names, but no one is coming here. Neither are free agents if JT leaves and we're still unattractive even if he does stay.

My Manchester United analogy was only because I know next to nothing about soccer and just picked the first team that came to mind. It wasn't a comparison of their situations.

In any case, I don't think the Islanders would be an unattractive destination for top quality GMs/coaches if the organization was first class. I don't live there, so I don't know. But is Pittsburgh really any bigger/nice/financially wealthier than Long Island/Brooklyn? They're able to attract high end staff because their ownership under Burkle and Lemieux is committed to running a world class organization. The city itself, or the team's ability to generate revenue to compete with the Rangers, Hawks, Kings, etc. is no better than Long Island, no?

 

[enigmatic]

i am a huge f***ing fan.....if snow stays as GM next year, i will seriously stop watching games

 

[periferal]

If this is the case the new owners are going to lose a good part of the fan base.

If people keep renewing their tickets, like I've heard many do here, then those "new owners" are not going to get the message.

 

[periferal]

They'd have to be quite ... naive, if that were the case. I know nothing about soccer (football to our European friends), but if I had the money and bought Manchester United, even with my limited knowledge I'd likely think about making a change in management if my team kept failing under the current guy.

This is funny/ironic as I know one of the owners of Manchester United. Any suggestions for him?

 

[BelovedIsles]

Going to hold these guys accountable. They don’t fire that fat POS in the next few weeks, I convert from a die hard to casual.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

Agreed, but the fact that they haven't been made already probably tells us what we need to know...The same way Tavares not resigning by now also says a lot.

I think changes are coming, who knows what they will be but Weight doesn’t sound like a guy who doesn’t expect to be back perhaps he will be moved to GM. He never wanted to coach from all we heard and was more interested in management.

 

[IslandersFan17]

Going to hold these guys accountable. They don’t fire that fat POS in the next few weeks, I convert from a die hard to casual.

That's where I am at. I'll no longer live and die by this team, I'll still love them and keep tabs on them but nowhere near as involved UNTIL snow is canned.

 

[IslandersFan17]

Going to hold these guys accountable. They don’t fire that fat POS in the next few weeks, I convert from a die hard to casual.

That's where I am at. I'll no longer live and die by this team, I'll still love them and keep tabs on them but nowhere near as involved UNTIL snow is canned.

 

[periferal]

 

[Marlo Stanfield]

He's coming back. I've already accepted it in my head.

 

[periferal]

He's coming back. I've already accepted it in my head.

Yup. And my wallet has shut it doors to anything with the word "Islanders" on it.

 

[BTrotts19]

That's where I am at. I'll no longer live and die by this team, I'll still love them and keep tabs on them but nowhere near as involved UNTIL snow is canned.

.Same here, love the sport will watch other teams with CI package but packing away my jersey's, hats etc...just not worth being a fan of an org who couldn't give a rats ass about the product

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

Sort of think this is positive for the hope they will fire him that they are at least considering canning him.

 

[periferal]

Sort of think this is positive for the hope they will fire him that they are at least considering canning him.

The fact that L&M need to "consider" doing something that is as obvious as washing your hands before you eat is not encouraging.

In fact I think the only reason they are "considering" it is because of the outcry amongst fans to do it.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

The fact that L&M need to "consider" doing something that is as obvious as washing your hands before you eat is not encouraging.

In fact I think the only reason they are "considering" it is because of the outcry amongst fans to do it.

Well also think of it this way as well, they came in team made playoffs and even won a round and then last year they fire crappy to late and just miss playoffs and then this year ends up as a disaster so the team was trending up and there were high expectations for this year. I think he gets fired just my gut feeling.

 

[BTrotts19]

The fact that L&M need to "consider" doing something that is as obvious as washing your hands before you eat is not encouraging.

In fact I think the only reason they are "considering" it is because of the outcry amongst fans to do it.

It unbelievable when you think that since they announced they would be taking over, they've given that fat POS the right to be a cap ceiling club, he's bungled that while making the team worse, alienated a good portion of the fanbase all because they can't do the f***ing most obvious thing...and not like he's "just had a couple of bad years", 2/3 of his tenure, where more than half the league makes the playoffs.

Just typing this got me even more pissed off, they better f***ing can these guys or I might just package up all my Islander shit and light it up right in front of Barclays next year

 

[periferal]

It unbelievable when you think that since they announced they would be taking over, they've given that fat POS the right to be a cap ceiling club, he's bungled that while making the team worse, alienated a good portion of the fanbase all because they can't do the ****ing most obvious thing...and not like he's "just had a couple of bad years", 2/3 of his tenure, where more than half the league makes the playoffs.

Just typing this got me even more pissed off, they better ****ing can these guys or I might just package up all my Islander **** and light it up right in front of Barclays next year

I hear you brother. You're saying what I'm thinking.

Although probably better to burn your stuff out in front of their houses.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

It unbelievable when you think that since they announced they would be taking over, they've given that fat POS the right to be a cap ceiling club, he's bungled that while making the team worse, alienated a good portion of the fanbase all because they can't do the ****ing most obvious thing...and not like he's "just had a couple of bad years", 2/3 of his tenure, where more than half the league makes the playoffs.

Just typing this got me even more pissed off, they better ****ing can these guys or I might just package up all my Islander **** and light it up right in front of Barclays next year

He will be fired I don’t see how they can justify keeping him

 

[BelovedIsles]

That's where I am at. I'll no longer live and die by this team, I'll still love them and keep tabs on them but nowhere near as involved UNTIL snow is canned.

Yep. That’s my plan. I’ll lurk HF, check scores... that’s...about... it.

This franchise burned its die hards out.

 

[BTrotts19]

He will be fired I don’t see how they can justify keeping him

If you care about the on ice product, you fire him, if you only care about the real estate deal, you only "consider" firing him but end up backing him for "just one more season", then rinse & repeat

we better know in a couple of weeks what these new owners are really passionate about

 

[periferal]

Here's an interesting thing that occurred to me...

If you look at the Islanders "Business Directors" on the website it lists the following:

ISLANDERS OWNERSHIP/EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT

Co-Owner and Alternate Governor	Jon Ledecky
Co-Owner and Governor	Scott Malkin
Co-Owner and Alternate Governor	Charles B. Wang
Co-Owner	Dewey Shay
President, General Manager & Alternate Governor	Garth Snow

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The way it's listed with Scott Malkin as "Governor" and Ledecky as "Alternate Governor" it seems that Malkin has the final say. It fits the notion that Malkin is the real money/businessman behind the Isles purchase (who has his own full-time job), and Ledecky who is the "fanboy" who is running the Isles day to day.

If true it would stand to reason that Ledecky would have his finger on the pulse of the team, but need to get Malkin's approval before doing anything involving big money...Like buying out snow's contract. It certainly feels like something like that might be true.

Also I tried to get more information on Dewey Shay, but who is he in this whole equation and how much say does he have? And does wang still get involved with decisions - Directly or indirectly?

Because are there 2, 3, or 4 voices in the room when the Isles try to make a decision? And if they're pulling in different directions then how will anything get done? Seems like they got on the same page with Belmont, but with front office/on-ice moves that's a completely different story.

I mean how can you accomplish so much with Belmont and get an arena project approved in 18 months...And not make one front office move in that time? Ledecky/Malkin identified that Barclays wasn't working and are getting behind a 1 billion dollar project to fix that, but at the same time have determined that nothing in the front office needs fixing?

It's all too unbelievable for words.

 

[Lame Lambert]

This is a god damn disgrace

 

[Steve55]

Lets hope Malkin and Ledecky give Snow a pink slip on April 9, 2018.

 

[periferal]

Lets hope Malkin and Ledecky give Snow a pink slip on April 9, 2018.

What is past is prologue.

After all that's gone down just this past year, the fact that snow is still GM means that it is most likely that he will remain GM.

I'm prepared for it. And assuming so I'd like to see Ledecky/Malkin choke on snow. No more money from Isles fans who care about the team. If that's who you want running your ship, then we're walking...Literally.