How Far Away Is Ryan O'Reilly From The Big 3 Two-Way C's?

[Legionnaire]

It doesn't really matter where he is ranked by the pundits. What matters is what he brings to Buffalo every night. Ask Sabres fans. They'll tell you. I'll bet Avs fans might have a thing or two positive to say given they've struggled since his exit.

 

[Sniper99]

he is better than toews and bergy this year already

they have been horrid

I guess players are not allowed to have a slow start to the year 25-30 games in. Still plenty of time.

 

[Kale Makar]

Kopitar, Toews, and Bergeron all got a lot of credit because they've won the Cup.

So I think ROR needs to show excellent 2-way play to get his team deep in the playoffs first.

To be fair he has played on the Avs and Sabres

 

[Jesus Take the Wheel]

If he wins it with the amount of dives and dirty hits he has made this year I will poo in my underpants

I'll remember to send a diaper over towards the end of the season

 

[6 Karlsson 5]

Actually, the top two-way guys are more along the lines of Crosby, McDavid, Tavares, Benn, Getzlaf, Stamkos, Malkin, etc.

I don't know why, how, why, or why, did I mention why... "two-way forward" has somehow evolved into meaning "best defensive forward who can also play a bit of offense too".

The phrase "best two-way forward" simply refers to the best forward when factoring in both offense and defense. That is STILL Sidney Crosby and Connor McDavid, not Patrice Bergeron. Not even anywhere nearly close. Yes Patrice may be slightly better defensively, but he nowhere near makes up for it offensively thus being a worse two-way player. Get it?

This x100 ( but I don't agree with the names that you mention)

 

[KrisLetAngry]

ROR IMO is a top 10 two way forward. One could say he is in the top 3 or top 5.

Media won't give him the hype but he is amazing.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

A notch below them because he isn't as offensively dynamic but he spear heads the 2nd tier, which is awfully close.

Turris is closer.

He really isn't.

 

[aufheben]

He's a tier below those guys with guys like Stepan, Kesler, RNH etc.

He's probably better than Stepan. Hasn't Kesler been great for Anaheim?

 

[Dogewow]

Anisimov, Getzlaf, Staal, Wennberg...

I mean ROR is a good center, but I don't see him standing out above the crowd.

Really strange list you've assembled here.

 

[Sabreality]

dude would make a great 'Fencer'...is that a word? his stick work, pokes, knifes, jabs to take away the puck is exceptional

 

[BDizzle*]

This point onward I would say he is among the "big 3" but I think that big 3 are about to change into Barkov, Matthews and ROR in the foreseeable future.

 

[Samsonite23]

I'm actually shocked that he's getting this much credit as a Sabres fan. Kind of weird. I mean, it's right. He's incredible. But it's weird.

 

[Nucker101]

Can't believe how underrated ROR is by some people still. He's an elite 2-way stud.

 

[Sojourn]

If he wins it with the amount of dives and dirty hits he has made this year I will poo in my underpants

Buy a diaper. You might need it.

Kesler has to be the favorite at this point.

I'll remember to send a diaper over towards the end of the season

Aww.

 

[Ducks in a row]

He's probably better than Stepan. Hasn't Kesler been great for Anaheim?

Yep he has been great for us and is looking like he can win the Selke this year rather then just a finalist like last year.

 

[mighty Stanley Duck]

Crosby looks pretty good defensively. At the beginning of his career he was decent but right know he is pretty good.
Problem is that two way F are always those who are around 70-75pt mark,so every time player goes into 90-100 pts territory he is considered as pure offensive guy even though he is good defensively.

 

[Hyack57]

How has Kesler not been brought up with all these names mentioned so far? On pace for probably his second Selke in his career this year..

Right!?

 

[mighty Stanley Duck]

Btw. ROR has highest TOI, which is pretty bad when you combined that with the fact he is playing on bad team.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Crosby looks pretty good defensively. At the beginning of his career he was decent but right know he is pretty good.
Problem is that two way F are always those who are around 70-75pt mark,so every time player goes into 90-100 pts territory he is considered as pure offensive guy even though he is good defensively.

Ducks fan? Maybe pens fan Idk your name is like a duck fan.

Ye Crosby is an amazing two way player. I'd give ROR the edge defensively though.

However Crosby these past few years has really worked on his two way game and it has shown. I have no problems sending him against any line in the NHL because I believe he can win any match up.

 

[northeastern]

this is a joke right



he is already as good as the big 3, which Barkov will join

Maybe today because of injuries to other players. But full health no he's not

 

[CornKicker]

Actually, the top two-way guys are more along the lines of Crosby, McDavid, Tavares, Benn, Getzlaf, Stamkos, Malkin, etc.

I don't know why, how, why, or why, did I mention why... "two-way forward" has somehow evolved into meaning "best defensive forward who can also play a bit of offense too".

The phrase "best two-way forward" simply refers to the best forward when factoring in both offense and defense. That is STILL Sidney Crosby and Connor McDavid, not Patrice Bergeron. Not even anywhere nearly close. Yes Patrice may be slightly better defensively, but he nowhere near makes up for it offensively thus being a worse two-way player. Get it?

preach on brother

 

[LeafFever]

The phrase "Two-Way" forward seems to concentrate far too much on defense. Crosby blows ROR, Toews, Bergeron, Kopitar away as a "Two-Way" forward. That silliness is why there's a backlash against Toews. People said he's "Overall" better than Crosby. Uh no. Not even close.

 

[Canucks1096]

Toews is not even up there for two way anymore

these are the top two way guys

Bergeron
Koivu
Niederitter
Wheeler
J Staal
O'Reilly
Kopitar
Marchand
Thornton
Pavelski
etc

No Kesler. Selke finalist last season. Have a good shot at the Selke this year since Toews Bergeron and Kopitar are all having bad seasons so far.