NEcoli
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So Grigorenko has been meh?
No, he's been fine. But Armia has been better.
So Grigorenko has been meh?
Nolan is an awful, dated coach and the game has passed him by. Long gone are the days where systems don't matter.
But no coach could win with this roster. I'm torn between wanting the new guy to get here and start to imprint his mark and nudge the youngsters in a particular direction, and wanting Nolan to be here to avoid a coach having to take flak for the crap roster.
The team is bad and so is the coach. It IS allowed to be that way.
Only bright spot is that the three youngsters are our best players right now. I don't know how much of that is on Nolan versus on them simply being the only talented players with promise who are trying to improve and make their mark.
Doesn't matter. He's here for this year, at the very least.
Edit: JOSHJULL, did you say "once and a while"??! A typo that sounds like a Nolan-ism. compete like world premier players on your conditioning sprint, because life is a ciiiiircccle and circles are valuable
Everybody knows Nolan is a "LaFontaine guy." The organization clearly is trying to distance itself from him. Otherwise, they would have included at least one La-La-La-LaFontaine highlight in the montage honoring Rick Jeanneret's greatest calls when he returned to the booth after beating cancer. It wasn't a simple oversight. It was an obvious slight.
http://buckyandsully.buffalonews.com/2014/11/17/murray-setting-table-nolan/
Bucky and Sully arguing that Murray is setting Nolan up to get the ax, but this gem from the article was priceless:
Man, you couldn't win with this argument in the most paranoid corners of this message board.
http://buckyandsully.buffalonews.com/2014/11/17/murray-setting-table-nolan/
Bucky and Sully arguing that Murray is setting Nolan up to get the ax, but this gem from the article was priceless:
Man, you couldn't win with this argument in the most paranoid corners of this message board.
But you can with TBN readers, Whiner Line callers and many who post on the team's Facebook page--all of whom are entrenched readers of Bucky's nonsense. Bucky loves Nolan, and he's casting his lot with him.
Yup. This looks likes Rolston's team, but Bucky and co. are ignoring Nolan's culpability. Also, Isn't Murray a LaFontaine guy too? They are just trying to create controversy whether it is logical or not.
I also love Harrington trying to imply Murray wishes he didn't take the Sabres job so he could be in line for the Ottawa job when all Murray was saying was if he would have known his uncle had a death sentence he would have planned it so he could spend as much time as possible with him.
But you can with TBN readers, Whiner Line callers and many who post on the team's Facebook page--all of whom are entrenched readers of Bucky's nonsense. Bucky loves Nolan, and he's casting his lot with him.
So 4 spots higher than the Sabres? Not bad.@kevinoDandC
ESPN ranks #Sabres Ted Nolan 26th among 30 NHL coaches, ahead of only Carlyle, Peters, Gallant, Eakins. http://m.espn.go.com/nhl/story?stor...top&rand=ref~{"ref":"http://t.co/0X2xlP1zpH"}
I think more posters are resigned to what we are at this point. Whereas at the start of last year many were refusing to accept it. That was actually unfair to Rolston.
Another issue that was unfair to Rolston was he had little control over the roster out of camp. It was Darcy pushing all of the kids onto he roster. I freely admit I was unfairly hammering Rolston over that. In restrospect he never had a chance with the situation he was thrust into.
I cringe when he speaks.... the man is a pure bull ******* .... I trust politicians more than Ted.
I'm not sure why it seems to be unacceptable to want some competent coaching while our team sucks... As if it means people don't understand the situation (lack of talent) or the ultimate goal ( 30th)
A team that "sucks" headed by a "competent coach" is an oxymoron.
This is absolutely NOT the right way to build a team. But, given our lack of draft success during the video scouting era, its what we're reduced to. The right way to build a team is to hit on your draft picks and have a "core" group that rotates in young players and rotates out players past their prime to replenish the farm/draft picks used up when the team is realistically a player or two from contention. Detroit (maybe St Louis too) is the closest model to this, and even then, its limited success due to the randomness of the draft.
Doing things this way doesn't guarantee a championship, dynasty or even a consistent playoff team. Look at Atlanta/Winnipeg, Edmonton, Florida, Washington,and Columbus. All these teams consistently picked in the top 5 across several seasons....and have no championships to show for it (and only Washington is a consistent playoff team)
We're hoping to become LA/Chicago/Pittsburgh by going full strip down and build...but the reality is that nothing is guaranteed. Its just as likely that all this "suffering" could be for nothing when all is said and done.
I assume that TM knows what a good team looks like and knows what a good strategy looks like. Obviously our team has no structure right now and that is why we look so terrible. We are a bad team, but we can barely get into the offensive zone and clear the puck from our own. It looks like our players are just skating around with no guidance, hoping to find the net.
I know we want to be bad this year, but being this bad isn't good for anyone. Veterans aren't performing, young talent (like CoHo) are invisible, and prospects that should make even a little difference look like busts.
From this, I believe that Nolan is detrimental to our future. We do have good players (even if its hard to see right now), but nothing will change without a proper game plan. If I can see this, I can't imagine TM can't see it.
How does Nolan still have a job?