How did Ryan O'Reilly fall to the 2nd round?
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Sweech
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The 2nd round isn't even a poor round to get picked in. I don't really understand the problem here. O'Reilly was not a first round talent in his draft year.
The first 3 rounds have produced solid players with regularity.
The first 3 rounds have produced solid players with regularity.
Whats the point? Are you serious? What the hell is the OP talking about? Don't you guys ever pay attention the the topic?
A really good 3rd liner, isn't a 1st round draft pick.
Joe Sacco didn't even know a Ryan O'Reilly existed, he's the coach. He's not a scout nor a GM. For any actual hockey fan, we knew Ryan O'Reilly was NHL ready. He destroyed the combine, and we all knew about his hard work. People, just didn't see much upside.
Freudian
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All your posts in this topic reek of having the benefit of hindsight. At the draft 2009, he wasn't considered NHL ready. It was a surprise to Avs when he made the team. That includes those that drafted him.
Destroying the combine? What does that even mean? He can do pushups so he can play in the NHL? If so, why isn't Mark McNeill in the NHL now?
He probably will be a bust, but you go back to the 2009 draft or any draft. You pick 9/10 times you pick Ferraro over O'Reilly type of players because of an upside of a speed demon over a hard worker.
Have to understand, that we have to look at the draft in it's perspective. There's no way, you can predict the future outcome, or else we'd all be millionaires.
foppagirl21
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Exactly, scouts are not fortune tellers.
And all I can say is I am THRILLED the Avalanche were able to snag him. He means a lot to the team.
And all I can say is I am THRILLED the Avalanche were able to snag him. He means a lot to the team.
We all knew? Are you serious? Head coach of a certain team doesn't have a clue about his players, are you aware what kind of nonsense are you saying? Radar certainly wasn't considered as NHL ready at that point in time and everyone in the Avs organization was surprised with how mature Radar was, so I don't know where is this stuff that any actual fan knew how Radar was NHL ready coming from the draft.
Also when I was asking you what's your point I was refering to your remark about him falling from the race for Calder trophy, which was IMHO because of the fact that voters prefer points over defensive play.
I never said that he was a disappointment after the hot start. I'm saying, Calm down and start this topic again, when O'Reilly actually gets a 60+ season. You are praising his offensive greatness after 10 games. The same, 10 games in his rookie season that had him as the Calder favorite. Remember?
Wait, what? A Head Coach is suppose to know ALL the 18 year old kids in the draft? You're kidding me right? Coaches' really don't know what the have, until the kid plays in THEIR training camp. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He's a head coach, he's there to coach his player's and not, all the other players in the league. Maturity a surprise? Oh my. Watching him play, you must know all about his personalty right? wow.
My points have been always referring the OP's question, "How did Ryan O'Reilly fall into the second round". Following the OP, and stop getting out of CONTEXT.
As a 1st round draft pick, I don't care about his defense game. You pick for offensive upside. Defense can be taught.
You're the one saying how every real hockey fan knew he was NHL ready, which is a blatant lie considering the fact that everybody in the Avs organization was surprised that he managed to secure a spot on the roster.
Avs staff knew he was mature for his years, but he exceeded their expectations, that's what I'm talking about.
He was projected to be a Talbot type at the time of the draft.
Better question is how did Johansson fall all the way to 24
Better question is how did Johansson fall all the way to 24
Everyone in the Edmonton organization was surprised that RNH secured a spot on the Edmonton roster.
It's just another way of complimenting the kid, nothing more.
Oh yeah, Colorado fan. Here's a better one - Are you not surprised that Landeskog made the team? Whenever a 18 year old makes a team it's a "surprise". Duchene was a surprise.
Seriously, go back to what you said - What is the point of your post?
Despite, a prospect being ready, no NHL team wants to rush a player into the NHL.
You're comparing apple to oranges.
If 2009 Colorado was as deep as Chicago is right now, of course he wouldn't make the team. In O'Reilly's rookie season, there were 18-23 year old's playing all over the place.
Destroying the combine? Ever heard of being "Physically ready?". The reason Swed prospects take 2-4 years to make it to the NHL?
McDNicks17
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Lmao, this is totally off topic, but one day I was thinking what if the Thrashers took Zetterberg 1st overall instead of Stefan, where would they be now, Hossa/Heatley-Zetterberg-Kovalchuk
how sick would that look, and wonder where they would be now.So now you're comapiring a #1 draft pick with Radar, they've said he surprised them because they wanted to give him a compliment, not because he actually did surprise them
. I guess you know better than one of the best scouts in the NHL, you should give him some tips on talent evaluation since you knew that Radar was a lock to make the roster and the same thing caught him by surprise.
It should be pointed out ROR was picked 3rd overall in the 2nd, it wasn't like he missed the first round by much
So now you're comapiring a #1 draft pick with Radar, they've said he surprised them because they wanted to give him a compliment, not because he actually did surprise them
I guess you know better than one of the best scouts in the NHL, you should give him some tips on talent evaluation since you knew that Radar was a lock to make the roster and the same thing caught him by surprise.
No, I'm not "COMAPIRING" Reilly, to a 1st draft pick. Any 18 year old that makes a NHL club comes to a surprise to anyone.
Yep, now start talking about the irrelevant.
Radar? Jesus, where do people come up with these nicknames. Radar? Seriously? Cheesiest nickname I've heard in the NHL. One second thought, it's like a name for a dog. Thanks, If i ever get a dog, I'll name it Radar.
Foot speed and skating issues were the concern.
He was physically mature at the time of draft, so some organizations may have been concerned with his ceiling.
He also wasnt a great goal scorer in junior, IIRC he was under 20 goals, but PPG player.
He may turn into a valuable top 6 option, but for those saying he could be a Kesler...it will never happen....Kesler's game is predicated on being an unreal skater both in speed and power, O'Reilly will not reach this level EVER.
That shouldnt take away from his game, because he is good and still developing...but the quicker you get to the show doesnt always guarantee you have a great career.
He was physically mature at the time of draft, so some organizations may have been concerned with his ceiling.
He also wasnt a great goal scorer in junior, IIRC he was under 20 goals, but PPG player.
He may turn into a valuable top 6 option, but for those saying he could be a Kesler...it will never happen....Kesler's game is predicated on being an unreal skater both in speed and power, O'Reilly will not reach this level EVER.
That shouldnt take away from his game, because he is good and still developing...but the quicker you get to the show doesnt always guarantee you have a great career.
