filinski77
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If in 30 years the league changes significantly, and the average score of an NHL game is 2-1, and some guy leads the league in goals 8+ times while only scoring 40 goals a year, when no-one else can hardly score 25-30, then YES, that player would probably be a better goal scorer than Ovechkin.This what I’m saying, your using #10 in goal scoring. What is the logic in that? It seems extremely arbitrary and therefor suspect that the intentions of using that number are not genuine.
why not use the percentage difference between the player and the closest player not on their team? I say not on their team, because someone like Gretzky produced a lot of goals for his teammates, so you’d have to remove, say Kurri as #2 because of the effect playing with Gretzky had on his totals (Gretzky’s 160+ assists had to be scored by someone).
it’s extremely suspect that these stats start off with a premise, then go on to choose arbitrary sounding variables to ‘prove’ that premise. And with Gretzky, the adjusted stats always fail to prove anything because he is such an extreme outlier that you cannot adjust him down to ‘superstar’ levels.
just wait for Ovechkin to break the record or not, then you won’t have to make up numbers.
and the end of your post is ignoring a very important thing. In 20-30 years there will be a bunch of smart asses adjusting Ovechkin’s stats to prove the new players who are scoring way less than him are actually better and beat his peak seasons by scoring 41 goals once. But they are better athletes, so their goals are more impressive.
The reason I say this, because I'm not blatantly ignorant of scoring environments and league-relative numbers. I'm sorry that you are, and that you just refuse to acknowledge it, but that's how it is. You can't just look at strict numbers and take them for face value and say 60>50.
Tell me who was the better goalscorer (in a theoretical example):
Player A - scores 50 goals in a season where the avg score was 3-2, and the top 5 goal scorers had this # of goals: 50 - 35 - 30 - 29 - 28
Player B - Scored 60 goals in a season where avg score was 6-5, and the top 5 goal scorers had this # of goals: 60 - 55- 54 - 50 - 49
If you are really going to sit there and tell me that Player B was better because of strict goal numbers, then I don't know what to tell you, other than to enjoy living in your own plastic bubble, completely unwilling to open your mind to other ideas other than easy numbers