Hmmm...wonder who will be available at #16 this year?
it's not only 12.5% to get Lafreniere, there's a SIGNIFICANT drop between 9 and 15, even 9 and 10. I can't wrap my head around the people who'd rather win the play ins and get stomped in the playoffs then get a top 6 player that can help this for several years and actually having a chance to get out of this mediocrity we've been stuck in for so long. it's like people are so use to it, they don't care. they would rather watch an other week of hockey rather than wait and actually watch legit hockey for years. it's crazy how a single draft pick could equilibrate this team.
I knew what you meant, but your statement in no way rebuts mine that he is the second-best winger on that team, and the margin between him and the first is minuscule this year. Moreover, ask yourself why the coach plays such a winger with a Malkin or a Crosby, especially if he does not have a reputation for playing favorites, the way Therrien did, including when he coached the Pens.I mean amazing players transform below average players by far.
That was my point , sorry i was not clear .
Lol,By far the wors on the Pens side
But Drouin was even wors.
Drouin should legit be traded for a cap dump and a second pick at this point , im not even joking , hes so god damn bad.
I mean Rust was considered a third liner like last season. I know that the pens wingers are not that great but still. I don't think i would place Rust second. But like i said thats my opinion. I think hes having fun with Malkin and Crosby depending on shifts.I knew what you meant, but your statement in no way rebuts mine that he is the second-best winger on that team, and the margin between him and the first is minuscule this year. Moreover, ask yourself why the coach plays such a winger with a Malkin or a Crosby, especially if he does not have a reputation for playing favorites, the way Therrien did, including when he coached the Pens.
Yeah because if they didn't play today they would stop developing all together...
You know what's really good for career development? Playing with elite talent and having a bonafide nucleus of young skilled players...
Interesting to think what kind of difference Kovalchuk, Cousins, Thompson, Scandella, Peca, and Reilly might have made. I'm still happy with the picks (3rd, 4th, 5th, 2nd & 4th, 7th & Luchuk, 5th & Sturtz) + more ice time for our younger guys in the playoffs.
How far would the Habs need to advance for the 16th pick to become much later? Is it the final four that pick 28-31?
Oh it will never happen with this coach for sure. It makes sense to me though, but what do I know. I really would love to understand how Weise, Weal and Ouellet make the team better though. I honestly can't wrap my head around it.
Aside from Kovy, the rest would have just diluted the ice times. If Thompson was there, Suzuki would probably play less and KK probably doesn't even play.
Disagree...Honestly we always see these young kids as capable of just slotting in to regular roles but in real life they are mostly shitting their pants at the idea. They are very young kids. At their age I seriously was very f***ing childish still. Can't just give them so much responsibility in such a boom or bust scenario.
To each his own. I don't necessarily agree that by winning the play ins you'll get stomped in the playoffs. There are worse teams than the Penguins like Columbus, Leafs, Hurricanes Rangers, Islanders etc that can make it through. The Pens had 86 points, beating them is no easy feat.
He was also young and growing into the NHL game, as well as stuck behind Guentzel and Hornqvist for PP time, the latter because he fits a profile the coach likes on the PP, complementary to the Crosbys and Malkins. Who is your #2 winger on that team then? I see him as better than Zucker right now: at least equal in goal scoring, to be charitable to Zucker, and much better at playmaking. That leaves no one. Hornqvist? Not lately. Plus Rust has been eating into his PP time, as his talent revealed itself. Thus, easily top-6, and arguably a top-line caliber, on a team like ours.I mean Rust was considered a third liner like last season. I know that the pens wingers are not that great but still. I don't think i would place Rust second. But like i said thats my opinion. I think hes having fun with Malkin and Crosby depending on shifts.
Disagree...
You watch Dale Weise tonight? He played like be was terrified of making a mistake.
If a young player is capable, there's nothing wrong with giving them additional responsibilities.
Speaking of which where is our poster who used this name?Did I read that properly?
Poehling would already be ok on the wing, but they want him to develop at center, which is the right thing long term. Ceiling is low, maybe a third line center like Eller. Fleury on the other hand, I don't see more than a #5 or 6 in him. I don't see the hype either. I wouldn't say they were trash, but that they have been tested. You have to know what you got.I don't see the hype for Fleury and Poehling. They were trash this year. Season them in the AHL until they can dominate.
I can definitely live with 16th (vs 9) and seeing the team advance to the next round and possibly beyond. Would hurt if Pens win the lottery but there's a 87.5% chance that won't happen
Scandella over Ouellet is a huge upgrade tho.
Yeah losing intentionally to get a 1/8 shot at a player who might not even be the saviour is really a great way to run your organization. Boston never had to truly tank in the past 15 years because they built a class organization with great vets who groom the next generation of youngsters. What is the point of getting a really good player if the atmosphere is toxic from losing (i.e Edmonton)