"HHOF Monitor" (1917-18/2005-06)

[BlueBull]

HHOF Monitor of the Current Best Forwards (Pre-NHL Awards)

Draft -- Player Name -- Pos. -- HHOF Monitor -- PS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
2014 -- Pastrnak David -- RW -- 405.5 -- 13.2
2014 -- Draisaitl Leon -- C -- 506.0 -- 12.8
UND -- Panarin Artemi -- LW -- 377.5 -- 11.4
2015 -- Connor McDavid -- C -- 1245.5 -- 10.9
2013 -- Nathan MacKinnon -- C -- 579.0 -- 10.8
2016 -- Matthews Auston -- C -- 328.0 -- 10.8
2011 -- Kucherov Nikita -- RW -- 1020.5 -- 10.5
2006 -- Marchand Brad -- LW -- 742.0 -- 10.4
2011 -- Zibanejad Mika -- C -- 246.0 -- 9.7
2007 -- Kane Patrick -- RW -- 1872.0 -- 9.5
2015 -- Eichel Jack -- C -- 248.0 -- 9.5
2004 -- Ovechkin Alex -- LW -- 4038.0 -- 8.7
2015 -- Connor Kyle -- LW -- 133.0 -- 8.7

 

[frisco]

Best eligible NHL players not in Hall of Fame


Player Name -- YEAR1 -- YEAR2 -- POS -- HHOF Monitor
======================================================
Barrasso Tom -- 1983-84 -- 2002-03 -- G -- 1282,5
Bure Pavel -- 1991-92 -- 2002-03 -- RW -- 1221
Gilmour Doug -- 1983-84 -- 2002-03 -- C -- 1190,5
Provost Claude -- 1955-56 -- 1969-70 -- RW -- 1130,5
Anderson Glenn -- 1980-81 -- 1995-96 -- RW -- 1038
Howe Mark -- 1979-80 -- 1994-95 -- D -- 1007,15
Thompson Paul -- 1926-27 -- 1938-39 -- LW -- 1002

Rousseau Bobby -- 1960-61 -- 1974-75 -- RW -- 982
Talbot Jean Guy -- 1954-55 -- 1970-71 -- D -- 981
Kerr Dave -- 1930-31 -- 1940-41 -- G -- 977,5
Vernon Mike -- 1982-83 -- 2001-02 -- G -- 960
Hollett Flash -- 1933-34 -- 1945-46 -- D -- 945,8
Fleury Theo -- 1988-89 -- 2002-03 -- RW -- 929
Stevens Kevin -- 1987-88 -- 2001-02 -- LW -- 920

Backstrom Ralph -- 1956-57 -- 1972-73 -- C -- 893,5
Vachon Rogie -- 1966-67 -- 1981-82 -- G -- 875,5
Carbonneau Guy -- 1980-81 -- 1999-00 -- C -- 872,5
Lemieux Claude -- 1983-84 -- 2002-03 -- RW -- 871,5
Goring Butch -- 1969-70 -- 1984-85 -- C -- 870
Liut Mike -- 1979-80 -- 1991-92 -- G -- 868
Stewart Gaye -- 1941-42 -- 1953-54 -- LW -- 858,5
Dillon Ceece -- 1930-31 -- 1939-40 -- RW -- 855,5
Brewer Carl -- 1957-58 -- 1979-80 -- D -- 844,9
Cain Herb -- 1933-34 -- 1945-46 -- LW -- 843
Trembley J.C. -- 1959-60 -- 1971-72 -- D -- 842,45
Smith Sid -- 1946-47 -- 1957-58 -- LW -- 838,5
Martin Rick -- 1971-72 -- 1981-82 -- LW -- 837
Hodge Ken -- 1964-65 -- 1977-78 -- RW -- 826
Goyette Phil -- 1956-57 -- 1971-72 -- C -- 821
Wharram Kenny -- 1951-52 -- 1968-69 -- RW -- 808
Tonelli John -- 1978-79 -- 1991-92 -- LW -- 800

Mckenney Don -- 1954-55 -- 1967-68 -- C -- 797
Cashman Wayne -- 1964-65 -- 1982-83 -- LW -- 795,5
Lowe Kevin -- 1979-80 -- 1997-98 -- D -- 795,4
Middleton Rick -- 1974-75 -- 1987-88 -- RW -- 784,5
Nicholls Bernie -- 1981-82 -- 1998-99 -- C -- 764
Smith Bobby -- 1978-79 -- 1992-93 -- C -- 763
Hitchman Lionel -- 1922-23 -- 1933-34 -- D -- 757,6
Thomson James R. -- 1945-46 -- 1957-58 -- D -- 753,35
Hextall Ron -- 1986-87 -- 1998-99 -- G -- 751
Ciccarelli Dino -- 1980-81 -- 1998-99 -- RW -- 750
Tikkanen Esa -- 1984-85 -- 1998-99 -- LW -- 749,5
Vanbiesbrouck John -- 1981-82 -- 2001-02 -- G -- 748
Bellows Brian -- 1982-83 -- 1998-99 -- RW -- 747,5
Chabot Lorne -- 1926-27 -- 1936-37 -- G -- 746,5
Mosdell Kenny -- 1941-42 -- 1958-59 -- C -- 744,5
Leach Reggie -- 1970-71 -- 1982-83 -- RW -- 739
Wilson Doug -- 1977-78 -- 1992-93 -- D -- 739
Roach John -- 1921-22 -- 1934-35 -- G -- 736
Peeters Pete -- 1978-79 -- 1990-91 -- G -- 716

I know he was a jerk but put Barrasso in already.

My Best-Carey

 

[Chili]

I know he was a jerk but put Barrasso in already.

My Best-Carey

Popularity counts at the voting booth.

If I had a vote for the Conn Smythe trophy in 1992, it would have been for him.

 

[BlueBull]

Every HHOF Inductee (2007-2012)

Note: Some scores may be lower than the 2006 Sheet because I'm using Hockey-Reference for Adjusted Points and Adjusted Wins.

Class -- Player Name -- Pos. -- Last Season -- HHOF Monitor -- Int. HHOF Monitor
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2007 -- Francis Ron -- C -- 2003/04 -- 1714
2007 -- MacInnis Al -- D -- 2003/04 -- 1782
2007 -- Messier Mark -- C -- 2003/04 -- 2826
2007 -- Stevens Scott -- D -- 2003/04 -- 1644.5

2008 -- Anderson Glenn -- RW -- 1995/96 -- 1038
2008 -- Larionov Igor -- C -- 2003/04 -- 598.5 (Played 26 Professional Seasons from 1978 to 2004)

2009 -- Hull Brett -- RW -- 2005/06 -- 2089.5
2009 -- Leetch Brian -- D -- 2005/06 -- 1038
2009 -- Robitaille Luc -- LW -- 2005/06 -- 1646
2009 -- Yzerman Steve -- C -- 2005/06 -- 2027.5

2010 -- Ciccarelli Dino -- RW -- 1998/99 -- 750

2011 -- Belfour Ed -- G -- 2006/07 -- 1399
2011 -- Gimour Doug -- C -- 2002/03 -- 1190.5
2011 -- Howe Mark -- D -- 1994/95 -- 1007.15
2011 -- Nieuwendyk Joe -- C -- 2006/07 -- 1130

2012 -- Bure Pavel -- RW -- 2002/03 -- 1221
2012 -- Oates Adam -- C -- 2003/04 -- 1084.5
2012 -- Sakic Joe -- C -- 2008/09 -- 2424
2012 -- Sundin Mats -- C -- 2008/09 -- 1169

Work In Progress, will do 2013-2020 Later.

 

[BlueBull]

I was thinking of adding an International HHOF Monitor, which would combine HHOF Monitor with International Success.
Here are the things I Added as well as some scores from HHOF Triple Gold Club Members:

Formula Index
International Event -- 1G -- 2S -- 3B -- MVP
Olympic Games -- 50 -- 25 -- 10 -- 10
World Championships -- 30 -- 15 -- 5 -- 10
Summit Series '72 -- 40 -- 30 -- 0 -- 0
World Cup/Canada Cup -- 20 -- 10 -- 0 -- 5
World Junior Championships -- 15 -- 8 -- 4 -- 5 (U20)

Triple Gold Club Members in the Hall of Fame

Class -- Player Name -- Pos. -- HHOF Monitor -- Int. HHOF Monitor
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2001 -- Fetisov Viacheslav -- D -- 335.25 -- 765.25
2008 -- Larionov Igor -- C -- 598.5 -- 888.5
2012 -- Sakic Joe -- C -- 2342.5 -- 2492.5
2013 -- Niedermayer Scott -- D -- 1565.1 -- 1740.1
2013 -- Shanahan Brendan -- LW -- 1224 -- 1334
2014 -- Blake Rob -- D -- 1027 -- 1162
2014 -- Forsberg Peter -- C -- 1559.5 -- 1780.5
2015 -- Lidstrom Nicklas -- D -- 3420.5 -- 3450.5
2015 -- Pronger Chris -- D -- 1196.6 -- 1341.6

 

[BlueBull]

I just realized that pnep changed how the HHOF monitor works a couple weeks ago.

Apparently, now Calder Runner Up doesn't account for any points in the formula. (they used to account for 30 points)

I'm Interested pnep, why did you decide to change up the formula?

 

[pnep]

I just realized that pnep changed how the HHOF monitor works a couple weeks ago.

Apparently, now Calder Runner Up doesn't account for any points in the formula. (they used to account for 30 points)

I'm Interested pnep, why did you decide to change up the formula?

yep



+ Maybe another tweak

"HHOF Monitor" formula for DEF =

Adjusted Games/5 +
Adjusted Pts/10 +

Adjusted Games/4 +
Adjusted Pts/8 +

 

[BlueBull]

yep



+ Maybe another tweak

"HHOF Monitor" formula for DEF =

Adjusted Games/5 +
Adjusted Pts/10 +

Adjusted Games/4 +
Adjusted Pts/8 +

Yeah. I like this.

The current formula seemed a little too punishing for defensemen imo. Sometimes, there are defensemen who you could treat like Forwards and they would end up with a higher Monitor.

For example:
Alex Pietrangelo, a 3 time All Star Team member and 2 Time Stanley Cup Champion, has a score of 677.10, which is a little low considering his resume.
If you were to treat him like a forward, he would be at around 719.5.
With this formula, Pietrangelo would be at a Score of 743.875, which seems more accurate, and I think solves this issue.

 

[BlueBull]

Now that Tom Barasso is in the Hall of Fame, I can now mostly assume that any player above a HHOF Monitor of 1200 is a shoe in for the Hall.

The only Exception to this would be Markus Naslund, who has a Monitor of 1274.

 

[BlueBull]

Now that Tom Barasso is in the Hall of Fame, I can now mostly assume that any player above a HHOF Monitor of 1200 is a shoe in for the Hall.

The only Exception to this would be Markus Naslund, who has a Monitor of 1274.

However, Both Corey Perry and Jamie Benn would be above 1200 and they're borderline cases, so we'll have to see. (Benn's career specifically screams Markus Naslund)

 

[morehockeystats]

Corey Perry has a disciplinary record that would interfere, I think.