SpookyTsuki
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Frk It
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I understand going BPA... To a degree.
I just don't know how some of you think our defense will improve, without ever putting a precedence on drafting defense.
Like are we going to plant a defenseman tree? Or start cloning people? Like, I don't get it...
The first round is typically what, like 2/3 or 3/4 centers? Odds are with BPA you're going to just keep getting forwards, because there's more forwards that get picked.
I just don't know how some of you think our defense will improve, without ever putting a precedence on drafting defense.
Like are we going to plant a defenseman tree? Or start cloning people? Like, I don't get it...
The first round is typically what, like 2/3 or 3/4 centers? Odds are with BPA you're going to just keep getting forwards, because there's more forwards that get picked.
Counter argument, you are more likely to find diamonds in the rough on defense in rounds 2+ then you are centers or skilled wingers. All that being said I am surprised you guys aren't voting Bean
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Mo Seider Less Problems
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League-wide, maybe.
We've shown a great ability to find diamonds in the rough with forward in later rounds, but no such ability with defenseman. (Nyquist, Tatar, Athanasiou, Filppula, Hudler).
So we need to take higher percentage stabs.
Just looking at your previous 10 drafts, only 5 of 30 players taken in the 2nd-4th rounds were defensemen. Pretty hard to hit the jackpot with that many picks used on defensemen
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Mo Seider Less Problems
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Right, but our GM has said our only draft strategy is to draft best player available, and that never results in us taking defense.
So that to me is kind of questionable for our ability to evaluate defenseman.
Shaman464
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At this point the likelihood that they develop a middle/late first round d prospect into a top pairing D-man is low especially in the next 5 years. I'd rather them go after the best center available and use that to move AA/Nyquist/Tatar/etc for young d-man that's already in the NHL.
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Mo Seider Less Problems
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Well, Khan recently said teams all want Larkin for the impact defenseman we all want.
So I don't know if this strategy actually works.
AA/Nyquist/Tatar are not going to return a good young defensemen who is already in the NHL. The reason that the Wings haven't been able to develop defensemen with their first-round picks is that they have spent all of three first-round picks on defensemen in the last 15 years.
Unfriendly Ghost
Kasper
Exactly. Besides, there are plenty of teams out there that can handle their own second line center position. It's not like they need to trade away their stud defensemen for one. Or are we projecting whatever forward the Wings draft to be the next Larkin? In which case the Wings wouldn't want to trade him anyway.
Bottom line, if you need defensemen, you need to draft them. Yeah, maybe you don't see them for a couple of years, but if you don't start now, this team will never be in the right position.
RabidBadger
Mazur detractors will look like dummies!
I'll go with Luke Kunin just make people say 'wtf?'.
I think he'd be a good #2 center to Larkin down the line
I think he'd be a good #2 center to Larkin down the line
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RabidBadger
Mazur detractors will look like dummies!
I'm not surprised given that team has a fetish for NCAA players. Given our allotted choices, I'll go with McAvoy.
So according to the ISS, if the draft pans out the way HF fans say it will, the Wings should target McLeod, jones, Rubtsov, or Bean, I suppose?
Interesting.
Interesting.
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Mo Seider Less Problems
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To all those saying they would take Rubtsov because of "BPA"
You realize that Central Scouting had McAvoy ranked 6th among NA skaters in their final rankings, and TSN had McAvoy at #6 as well, right???
Cause the kid is pretty good.
You realize that Central Scouting had McAvoy ranked 6th among NA skaters in their final rankings, and TSN had McAvoy at #6 as well, right???
Cause the kid is pretty good.
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Datsyukian Deke
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Yea, he'll make the opening roster this season having been a pro for seasons.
I really don't want a forward, unless he's actually miles better than the next best D. If we never take our own guys, and instead hope someone will randomly trade us theirs, we're never going to really improve. Especially when our best trade pieces aren't really going to return top tier talent. That it may take a few years for them to play in the NHL is sort of immaterial, given that Larkin and Mrazek aren't on a timer, yet.
we dont need to concern ourselves about trading nyquist or tatar for a dman because we need to do that AND draft more dmen ourselves
this whole draft should be about dmen and we need to trade away more players and more prospects who we arent going to use for more picks only and use those picks to draft more dmen
its the ONLY way we're going to rebuild the blueline longterm
picks, picks, picks
its been proven over and over the more picks you have the better your cupboard and the better odds you have of drafting your teams future stars
this whole draft should be about dmen and we need to trade away more players and more prospects who we arent going to use for more picks only and use those picks to draft more dmen
its the ONLY way we're going to rebuild the blueline longterm
picks, picks, picks
its been proven over and over the more picks you have the better your cupboard and the better odds you have of drafting your teams future stars
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Shaman464
No u
I'm basing this off the fact that since Lidstrom Detroit has not trained an effective top defenseman from any round.
Henkka
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We don't have time wait defenceman to pan out. Stockpile forwards and trade some of them for mor proven defencemen.
That's ultimate best bulding plan for us right now. We need a leading defenceman, who is older than Larkin/Mantha/AA to get organizational peak with "better timing".
Our future 1st D should be ~Mrazek aged. Then eveything would look great.
It won't hurt to draft a kid D also, but I see that more as a trade piece for that same need, for more proven defenceman.
Drafting McAvoy and sending him for Shattenkirk could be one scenario.
