vodeni
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wrong...Jake will be with Sid no matter what unless Sid gets hurt....Like the submarine?
Anyways.... I think where Jake goes definitely depends on who Zucker develops chemistry with.
wrong...Jake will be with Sid no matter what unless Sid gets hurt....Like the submarine?
Anyways.... I think where Jake goes definitely depends on who Zucker develops chemistry with.
Very well. Jankowski it is.I like Jake with Rusty. I don't care who centers them.
Crosby's reaction to this treasonous poll:
should be with geno and rust. Zucker and KK with Crosby.
but Sid has tremendous say-so on whom he skates with, and he's gonna want Jake....
But he’d have a nice smile on his face
This thread is more about Zucker than it is Jake. And you'd have a hard time convincing anyone Zucker wasn't thriving with Sid.He'd obviously be great with either center, and wouldn't have been surprised for this poll to go in either direction. I am, however, surprised that it's a near 2:1 vote. Expected it to be closer.
If Kappy is Krappy with Sid, we know that Sullivan won’t blink an eye to move Rust away from Geno and reunite him with Jake and Sid...it’s hard not being the favorite child...
yeah! we are just going on common sense ..... why in the world would we expect that from our coach.The problem with this pole is that we know that unless Sid gets hurt, Jake is playing with him.
Thems the breaks with Sid being more difficult to play with. I don't think Rust's goal scoring is 100% dependent on Malkin. I think Rust would have scored similar totals if he spent the same amount of time with Sid last year. Could be wrong though.
While I do hope Kappy sticks with Sid, I also hope they mix things up a bit just to get an idea of who works with who. I don't want the first time Sid gets someone or Malkin gets someone new is when things are tense in the middle of a game they are losing.
I wouldn't mind Jake, Zucker, Rust, Kappy, McCann, and maybe one or two more like Poulin (this is in came mind you) all getting a rotation with all centers.
Who knows: Rust-Sid-Kappy, Zucker-Malkin-Guentzel would be what sticks. What is Rust and Kappy blow up with Jankowski. Wouldnt that be fun?
McCann-Sid-Jake
Zucker-Malkin-Poulin
Rust-Jankowski-Kapanen
OOooooooo!!! Ahhhhhhh! Oooooooo!!! Ahhhhhh!!!
This thread is more about Zucker than it is Jake. And you'd have a hard time convincing anyone Zucker wasn't thriving with Sid.
We all know Jake's a swiss army knife.
Seems like a no-brainer. Sullivan gets attached to certain combinations or favorites yhough, so it wouldn't surprise me one iota for him to do the opposite of what we want.
That being said, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion at all that Zucker couldn't work with Malkin. He's a mature, smart player who can adapt. We may be selling him short. He did bag 2 goals in the playoffs without Sid.
Can't help but think of the Iggy fiasco when I see Jake(our best winger) playing on his off wing, for the purpose of fitting McCann on Sid's wing
Thems the breaks with Sid being more difficult to play with. I don't think Rust's goal scoring is 100% dependent on Malkin. I think Rust would have scored similar totals if he spent the same amount of time with Sid last year. Could be wrong though.
While I do hope Kappy sticks with Sid, I also hope they mix things up a bit just to get an idea of who works with who. I don't want the first time Sid gets someone or Malkin gets someone new is when things are tense in the middle of a game they are losing.
I wouldn't mind Jake, Zucker, Rust, Kappy, McCann, and maybe one or two more like Poulin (this is in came mind you) all getting a rotation with all centers.
Who knows: Rust-Sid-Kappy, Zucker-Malkin-Guentzel would be what sticks. What is Rust and Kappy blow up with Jankowski. Wouldnt that be fun?
McCann-Sid-Jake
Zucker-Malkin-Poulin
Rust-Jankowski-Kapanen
OOooooooo!!! Ahhhhhhh! Oooooooo!!! Ahhhhhh!!!
We're gonna listen to a bloke that is best friends with Jack Johnson?
f***ing muppets.
I am wondering if the team might benefit from limiting Crosby and Malkin's ice time a little. I know that sounds strange, but if the team can balance out the first, second and third lines a bit and get good production from the third line, it could help Sid and Geno when the playoffs roll around. I get that coaches like to put all the best players together to try to maximize production from the top lines, but if you get an overall production from 3 balanced lines as you do from 2 stacked lines and a useless 3rd line, isn't it better to have 3 balanced lines? Now I know JR didn't trade a 1st away for Kappenen to play on the 3rd line and last season Rust earned top 6 time and no one wants a $5M Zucker on the 3rd and Sully wants Tanev stapled to Blueger but you have to think that there are 3 really good lines in the mix somewhere. In a condensed season it might be worthwhile to not ride your mid 30 y/o's so much. We know that Sid will put up good numbers with a pylon and when Geno is Fire he can too. I say if McCann is the expected 3rd line C, give him a playmaker and a possession specialist and watch them tear 3rd pair D apart.
I do think that in the first few games that Sully should literally try almost any line combos just to see what might work and go from there. I think it is very premature to put Kappy with Jake and Sid in ink.
I can understand your side, but if we are ranking lines on a scale of 1-10 is it better to have First line 10, Second line 10, Third line 5, fourth line 5 or is it better to have 1st line 9, 2nd line 9 3rd line 8 and 4th line 4?As a counter point to spreading the talent and limiting our stars ice time...as we've seen tried in the past asking Sid and Geno to carry lesser players is not the way to go. They would have to work harder to pickup the slack even if you shorten their ice time.
Why not give them the resources to help carry their lines? We can create a sufficient third line without clipping the stars wings. With age they need insulated more so.
No more of this Sheary and Simon flanking Sid...or Fedotenko/Talbot flanking Malkin. They've served their sentences...set them free.
I can understand your side, but if we are ranking lines on a scale of 1-10 is it better to have First line 10, Second line 10, Third line 5, fourth line 5 or is it better to have 1st line 9, 2nd line 9 3rd line 8 and 4th line 4?
Hey...I was pulling numbers out of my ass alright . I just think that yes Sid and Geno are older but Sid has shown that he can be a top line in the league with 3rd and 4th line players. Geno can do it as well. So by giving them lesser but complimentary players, they can still be top lines in the league, but now you have extra talent on the 3rd and 4th line. It might not work, but it should at least be worth a shot. Tanev could very well be the next Dupuis. Erod may not excite a lot of people, but he has enough skill that he could be a good complimentary player, same with Lafferty. Poulin might not be ready, but if you ease him in it could free up another top 6 player for the bottom 6. Not to mention that we really don't know how Janks is going to fit in, he could surprise and be the perfect compliment to Geno (not likely, but who knows), or he could disappoint and be 4th line fodder. So yeah, they might not be 9's or 10's, but it is possible to get 3 ~8's and a decent 4th. I know that it is a little risky betting that Sid and Geno can still carry top lines, primarily on their own. But I think it should at least be considered. My biggest issue is that we know that McCann can't carry a 3rd line all on his own and will need some better talent to work with, yet Sully doesn't sound like he is going to give it to him. Regardless I would like to at least see a game where McCann has one of Zucker, Kappy or Rust just to see what they can do. We know that McCann has a great shot, but he needs someone that can help get the puck and help get him the puck and I just don't see that coming from the players that are currently penciled in with him. Of course I could be proven wrong and I actually hope that I am.I'm confused by how spreading our talent leaves us two '9' lines and one '8' line. We don't have that much great depth...let me try:
10 being the Geno line that was unreal
5 being an adequate 3rd line
Jake-Geno-Rust = 9.5
Zuck-Sid-Kap = 9 (Kap is the wildcard)
McCann-Teddy-Tanev = 6
Laff-Jank-Rod = 3.5-4 (this is a toss up)
Now if you split up the talent from our top lines how does the top 6 stay elite as you think? You seem to overvalued our talent. If we had it as good as you predict we'd be a dominant favorite for the cup...not a fringe contender.