Lol, nah I'm actually getting a bad feeling it might be more confusing than good like Westworld, more style and #twists than substance.
But criticism from people who haven't watched the show is laughable. Politics have been very ambiguous so far.
This thread is to discuss Watchmen- not for folks to pontificate on your personal ideology on the "woke movement" outside the context of the show, esp when you admit that you haven't even watched the show.
It's hilarious that so many who admit to not having watched the show are complaining about this topic esp considering after episode 1 I saw several reviews criticizing the show from the Left for being too pro-Police and an apologist piece for the Police.
One thing is for sure, this show does a great job getting the ideologues on both sides to identify themselves as unreasonable- on the Right those who seem offended by this show and seem to consider it to be putting forward the "woke" narrative by...... showing a White Supremacist group planning to do bad things? Are they also this mad when Homeland or 24 have islamic extremists attempting terrorist attacks?
And conversely those on the Left who cannot appreciate the show making a point that attempting to control access to weapons for on-duty cops will likely lead to more cops dying on duty and that the police force which while may have weird racist elements within it tends to be an important line of defense against the unsavory elements in the society.
Contrary to what some are saying I don't think the show plays into the woke narrative, it is infact highlighting how issues like policing, access to guns and race have a complex relationship that cannot be reduced to simple and convinient one line narratives that folks on either extreme try to push. This is exemplified in the fact that the villains of the show are white supremacist but they happen to have the truth on their side when it comes to exposing the Veidt conspiracy and the "heroes" of the show (atleast so far) are all members of the police force who do unsavory things torturing people for information and indiscriminately beating up an entire community (of seemingly unarmed trailer park white folks some of who may or may not be associated with the white supremacists) as retribution.
Those who engage with the show instead of knee jerk and unthoughtful responses like "pRoMoTiNg WoKeNeSs" or "PoLiCe ApOlOgIsT" will find it extremely rewarding. And this is not even mentioning that even ignoring the political implications of the show, it is just damn entertaining- the Jeremy Irons stuff is going to be a "Leftovers" style mind**** in my opinion.
These are straw-men. As far as I can tell, I'm the only one here who has said that they didn't watch it and I didn't criticize or complain about the show's politics at all.
Let me clarify. It is not the case that I came into the thread screaming about my general thoughts about woke politics or something. I was curious about what people were saying about the show, there was an existing dispute about woke politics, I noticed a comment being a bit disingenuous and I basically said "I didn't watch it, but I don't think the logistics of this specific defense/counter-point you're making really checks out-- If this potentially bull-**** accusation were true, it certainly wouldn't be a good thing and we should at least acknowledge that before further discussing whether or not it is bull-****." You shouldn't need to watch the show to be able to make that very simple point.
Now somehow that's being lumped together with the knee-jerk anti-SJW mob that are ultra-sensitive to woke politics infesting popular culture, when that isn't what I argued in favor of at all.
In response to why I engaged the discussion despite not watching the show, I said that I found the subject itself to be an interesting and relevant point of discussion worth engaging in (despite not really being optimistic enough about the entertainment value/quality of the show itself, regardless of its politics, to watch it) and for some reason that's being misrepresented to mean that "woke politics really bothers me so I want to complain about it even if the show isn't guilty of it" or something. You both seem to be dead set on that being the case, and it isn't. If it was, I would totally agree with you that this would be a moronic thing to argue.
I mean, I get that it's tiresome that you have to constantly fend off bad anti-woke narratives even when they aren't applicable, but don't assign those motivations to me.
