HBO’s ‘Watchmen’ tv series

[Mr Fahrenheit]

it does, i looked at IMDB as I had a few questions.
even without looking, it was obvious who Irons was playing.

I also laughed at Dr Manhattans appearance in the play

Yep, I knew he was Veidt just by all the purple

 

[RobBrown4PM]

So after Ozy put a wrench in the natural progression of man and unified the planet, I'm guessing the vast majority of the world went uber uber liberal, while a small but deadly right wing nut job conspiracy Cult arose from Rorschach's journal?

 

[Jumptheshark]

have to admit--I only knew the movie--so I walked into this series not knowing what I was in for

Pretty f***ing strange so far

 

[Kale Hulls]

All the race baiting has absolutely nothing to do with Moore's original work. I find it offensive and am dropping the show.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

All the race baiting has absolutely nothing to do with Moore's original work. I find it offensive and am dropping the show.

lmao what a dumb take. Wah

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

All the race baiting has absolutely nothing to do with Moore's original work. I find it offensive and am dropping the show.

The anti-woke crowd is slowly becoming as easily offended as the SJWs they so despise.

 

[Kale Hulls]

The anti-woke crowd is slowly becoming as easily offended as the SJWs they so despise.

If you read the original books you would see that has absolutely nothing to do with the themes Alan Moore originally was going for.

 

[604]

If you read the original books you would see that has absolutely nothing to do with the themes Alan Moore originally was going for.

Well, it's funny that it really does show the Rorschah loving crew as nihilist as was originally intended.

He was supposed to be a villain but so many saw him as a hero. Now he is being portrayed as villainous.

 

[Kale Hulls]

Well, it's funny that it really does show the Rorschah loving crew as nihilist as was originally intended.

He was supposed to be a villain but so many saw him as a hero. Now he is being portrayed as villainous.

The comics were much more reflective in the faults of the individual than they were with society, not to say it didn't go there, but I really feel like this isn't what it was originally about at all, especially the racially charged stuff.

 

[604]

The comics were much more reflective in the faults of the individual than they were with society, not to say it didn't go there, but I really feel like this isn't what it was originally about at all, especially the racially charged stuff.

Think it was politically charged based on ideologies which was big for its setting, i.e. capitalism vs. communism while the time setting for the series lends itself more towards racism.

The reference to Black Wallstreet is interesting as that historical incident is significantly under publicized for its significance.

 

[Eisen]

Well, it's funny that it really does show the Rorschah loving crew as nihilist as was originally intended.

He was supposed to be a villain but so many saw him as a hero. Now he is being portrayed as villainous.

I wouldn't characterise Rorschach as nihilistic at all. More extremely objectivist.

 

[David Dennison]

If you read the original books you would see that has absolutely nothing to do with the themes Alan Moore originally was going for.

Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix weren't Cesar Romero-y enough for me as the Joker either.

 

[tealhockey]

I'm not in love with it so far, but it has to be better than most of what else is on TV. I think next episode will be pretty interesting

 

[bleedblue1223]

Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix weren't Cesar Romero-y enough for me as the Joker either.

Yeah, but there is a different between an actor's take on a character, and changing the themes of a story. Even in your example, it's not like the character of the Joker was inherently changed from a villain to something else.

 

[Pilky01]

All the race baiting has absolutely nothing to do with Moore's original work. I find it offensive and am dropping the show.

Its by far the most interesting stuff to me. I hope there is a good payoff here because I am fascinated by this world.

 

[Kurtz]

I'm a big fan of Regina King's theme music. When that techno starts pumping, you pay attention.

 

[David Dennison]

Yeah, but there is a different between an actor's take on a character, and changing the themes of a story. Even in your example, it's not like the character of the Joker was inherently changed from a villain to something else.

I don't buy the 'you can change this, but not this' analysis. Its a different story set in the same universe, different characters, they were made for different audiences at different times, it's allowed to have different themes.

And I think it's a little early to be calling shots on what the theme is or isnt, several twists already, I wouldn't be putting much money on who the 'good' or 'bad' guys are. I am Westworld levels of confused already, we will see if they keep the story tight and moving along.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I don't buy the 'you can change this, but not this' analysis. Its a different story set in the same universe, different characters, they were made for different audiences at different times, it's allowed to have different themes.

And I think it's a little early to be calling shots on what the theme is or isnt, several twists already, I wouldn't be putting much money on who the 'good' or 'bad' guys are. I am Westworld levels of confused already, we will see if they keep the story tight and moving along.

I'm not saying what can and can't be changed, just saying there is a difference IMO.

 

[NyQuil]

Yep, I knew he was Veidt just by all the purple

In the entertainment business, no one puts the words "Officially Declared Dead" in a headline when they are actually dead.

 

[NyQuil]

I'm actually more interested to see something novel.

I've read the graphic novel series and seen the film.

I know that Alan Moore will hate it but sometimes you have to try and break new ground.

I'm pleased to see that they've gone in a different direction.

It gives me a very strong Bioshock: Infinite vibe for those of you who are familiar with that game with the underlying racial tensions juxtaposed with mythical Americana, and with the Tulsa Massacre standing in for the Boxer Rebellion.

Whether or not Rorschach is emblematic of the 7th Cavalry is completely irrelevant. He wouldn't be the first individual expropriated by a group as a symbol in a manner that isn't consistent with his original philosophy.

 

[bleedblue1223]

In the entertainment business, no one puts the words "Officially Declared Dead" in a headline when they are actually dead.

Even in the real-world and actual media, I'd be pretty skeptical when it's a major figure.

 

[NyQuil]

Don Johnson killed in the first episode? That gets a down.

I kind of saw it coming in that the Comedian dies at the beginning of Watchmen which sets the whole investigation off.

It's consistent in structure. A morally dubious individual dies. (ex-superhero? how did they get Nite Owl's owlmobile?)

 

[David Dennison]

Wrong tread

 

[David Dennison]

Wrong tread

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

I kind of saw it coming in that the Comedian dies at the beginning of Watchmen which sets the whole investigation off.

It's consistent in structure. A morally dubious individual dies. (ex-superhero? how did they get Nite Owl's owlmobile?)

The song unforgettable was playing during the dinner scene before he dies and also when the comedian dies in the movie

Already got flashback scene with him and are likely to get more