Proposal: Hayes to Pittsburgh (3 team trade)

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  1. Toby Flenderson Registered User

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    To Penguins: Kevin Hayes @ 3.5 million

    To Rangers: 2019 1st (team X), 2019 2nd (Pitt), Filip Hallander

    To team X: Derrick Brassard



    In this scenario the Pens trade Brassard, Hallander, and a 2nd for Hayes with retention.

    Team X trades a 1st for Brassard. It has been reported there is a strong market for him and as a rental of his caliber I think a 1st from a playoff team is a fair price. This could be Dallas, Columbus, or really any other team looking for center help at the deadline.

    Fair?
     
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    I feel like team X is a pretty important missing piece.

    That 1st could be 25-31 or 15-24... that’s a pick most teams may like to hold on to.
     
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    If team X is giving up the 1st round pick, I don't see why they wouldn't just cut Pittsburgh out of the deal and take Hayes themselves.
     
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    Because Hayes costs more than just a 1st. If team X wanted to pay 1st, 2nd, and a solid prospect for Hayes I suppose they could.

    Whereas Brass could probably be had for just a 1st
     
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    Team X GM hangs up and blocks your number
     
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    An offensive center scoring at a ~30 point pace isn't worth a 1st in this market.
     
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    Think the trade is more fair if Pittsburgh gives up the first and team x the second. As a rangers fan I’d trade Hayes for that package
     
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    So basically the Pens use Team X to take Brassard and get Hayes to Pitt...?
     
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    If Brassard was worth a 1st as a rental 3C then the Pens would just keep him as opposed to trying to upgrade on him.
     
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    So Team X trades a 1st for Brassard?

    Terrible.
     
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    Is this just a scenario that Pittsburgh isn't giving up a first for the sake of it?

    Why would another team give up a 1st and get the consolation prize of Brassard when they could just pay that to get Hayes, which was conveniently left out to acquire Hayes.
     
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    The trade Brassard meme has gotten way out of hand. Sorry to be harsh, but that is a beyond silly trade for Pittsburgh. Why are the Pens trading a UFA player for a worse and more expensive UFA player and also added one of their best prospects and a 2nd round pick on top of that? That would get JR fired.
     
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    Wow, this dude thinks Brassard is better than Kevin Hayes :lol:......Pitt getting Hayes without giving up a 1st would be a pipe dream for them.

    Team X is the team that gets screwed here.
     
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    No, Pittsburgh would be the team getting screwed. Hayes having a career best half season assist total doesn't make him any better than he always was. Pittsburgh gets a different UFA center while giving up assets that could be used elsewhere or simply kept.
     
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    Lmao you think Nyr is getting a 1st, 2nd and a prospect for hayes. Holy mama.
     
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    You don't know what you're talking about. I wont waste my time trying to convince you.
     
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    No, you shouldn't.
     
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    I would figure out who team X is for this to be a 3-team Trade.

    It’s hard to gauge value or who says no if we don’t know the team making the trade.

    EDIT: @Toby Flenderson ... for some reason I am having a rough time quoting you.
     
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    Rather pay a 1st + for Hayes than a single 1st for Brassard. So yea, if I was team X, I'd just bypass Pens altogether and talk with the Rangers alone.
     
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    Still not enough
     
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    Time Will tell. It depends on the projected number of the pick. Plus, likely, If he resigns with the new team (iow the 2nd would be conditional). I can see him getting a late First (projected 25-31), a very good prospect and a conditional 2020 2nd. Or a mid First round pick (projected 17-24), a good prospect and a conditional 2020 2nd.
     
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    I will take a little of what op is smoking
     
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    Well since CBJ is presumably interested in Brassard might as well make them team X with them giving up a light cap hit and 1st to NYR
     
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    The way Brassard has played this year, he is only worth about a 3rd. Seriously. I don't know what happened to him. Maybe it is the way he is being used in Pitt, but his numbers are night and day. It looks like a completely different person.
     

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