Speculation: Hawks Rebuild Thread

[Smif]

You gotta sign Roman Polak and flip him at the deadline for multiple 2nd's. Rebuilding 101.

 

[Malaka]

Toews at 50% is worth something positive at least. At least a 2nd or decent prospect.

Toews at 50% is still a 70-80 pt selke quality center, somebody f***in put a bullet in me if I need to explain this in every thread over the course of a rebuild. I’d ask for a high end prospect like Newhook, Rossi, Perfetti, Hayton, Steel, Glass, etc

 

[BigFatCat999]

Damnit, it's threads like this that make me understand why Canadians hold up in Cottage Country because my brain is going overdrive coming up with trade ideas for Kane & Toews

 

[GoldenSeal]

Toews at 50% is still a 70-80 pt selke quality center, somebody f***in put a bullet in me if I need to explain this in every thread over the course of a rebuild. I’d ask for a high end prospect like Newhook, Rossi, Perfetti, Hayton, Steel, Glass, etc

I’m a Blues fan and I’m sitting here like has everyone lost their damn mind, TOEWS IS STILL ELITE AF. Period.

 

[BigFatCat999]

I’m a Blues fan and I’m sitting here like has everyone lost their damn mind, TOEWS IS STILL ELITE AF. Period.

I'm a Preds fan and agreeing with you.

 

[Larry Hanson]

If cash isn't a concern to ownership then retaining is the way to go with Kane and Toews, I'm talking 3+M retention on each. You aren't going to get a better return on that cap space.
I would guess
Kane - 2 x 1sts + 1 great prospect or 2 good propects
Toews - 1st + 2nd + 2 good propects.
Even more if they take on a short term cap dump.

Keith is a tough call, if they try to trade him he might just retire. He's near the end of that contract where the salary has dropped significantly.

 

[Go Wings]

I’m a Blues fan and I’m sitting here like has everyone lost their damn mind, TOEWS IS STILL ELITE AF. Period.

He is not 10.5 million dollars elite and therein lies the problem.

 

[Go Wings]

If you are going to declare to your fans you are going to rebuild they probably should have done that before the draft and free agency. Good luck moving out salary and players now.

 

[MagicalRazor]

if the hawks retain on Kane or Toews You would get massive returns I don't think you even need 50% .Kane / Towes at 5.625 M would be some of the best contracts in the league .

I think retaining 25-30% each You can fetch a very very nice return.

 

[Malaka]

If cash isn't a concern to ownership then retaining is the way to go with Kane and Toews, I'm talking 3+M retention on each. You aren't going to get a better return on that cap space.
I would guess
Kane - 2 x 1sts + 1 great prospect or 2 good propects
Toews - 1st + 2nd + 2 good propects.
Even more if they take on a short term cap dump.

Keith is a tough call, if they try to trade him he might just retire. He's near the end of that contract where the salary has dropped significantly.

To everyone reading this thread: Their contracts are front loaded as well. They only earn 7 million with a 4-5 million dollar signing bonus over the next 3 years which probably can be ate for better picks

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Kane for Marner. Cap hits close enough. Chicago gets a cornerstone for the rebuild, and Toronto gets somewhere in the playoffs.

 

[PullHard]

Toews @ ~$7.5-8M is a big add for a team

I'd be curious to see what other teams would give up for that player and contract

 

[TLEH]

He is not 10.5 million dollars elite and therein lies the problem.

The problem is that at 50% retention he is making like 5.25 million. Thats pennies until 2024.

 

[Larry Hanson]

To everyone reading this thread: Their contracts are front loaded as well. They only earn 7 million with a 4-5 million dollar signing bonus over the next 3 years which probably can be ate for better picks

I'm guessing most real contenders are more concerned with cap hit than actual dollars (except maybe COL) but who knows these days.

 

[8999]

If they aren't going to move Toews/Kane/Keith, I don't think a letter was even necessary. If moving Saad and Crawford requires a public explanation, there should be letters all over the place from other teams.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I'd only want Toews on the Jets if 50% of his salary is retained by the Hawks.

 

[Stephen]

Toews and Kane in Vegas would kind of make sense if they hadn't blown their budget on Pietrangelo and could shed Fleury and Pacioretty. They seem to be missing a high end finisher and a number one center.

 

[wahsnairb]

I'd only want Toews on the Jets if 50% of his salary is retained by the Hawks.

Cool, you would be in a heated bidding war with probably 20+ other teams at that point.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Leafs would definitely want Murphy. I dont know how the Leafs would do it though tbh. They have the picks/prospects, I think, but in terms of the cap, I can't see it.

 

[lawrence]

if they hadn't blown their budget on Pietrangelo

I don't think they "blown" their Budget on Pietrangelo. He is a good signing and a lot of teams I think they rather have that, then 11.5 Panarin.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

I feel like Kampf would be a good 4C option for the Habs. What would Chicago want for him?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I feel like Kampf would be a good 4C option for the Habs. What would Chicago want for him?

Pick or prospect

With Strome about to be signed and Wallmark signed for #4C spot Kampf is someone we can move on from

Thoughts on Demchenko for Kampf?

Demchenko is now blocked by Jake Allen so there is no path to NHL for him in Montreal but in Chicago he could very well be #1 goalie

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Leafs would definitely want Murphy. I dont know how the Leafs would do it though tbh. They have the picks/prospects, I think, but in terms of the cap, I can't see it.

To
LW Alexander Kerfoot
D Timothy Liljegren

To
D Connor Murphy

Hawks take on Kerfoot who's name has been out there in trade rumors all summer and pick up another young RD to plug into right side with Boqvist/Mitchell for this coming year

Keith-Boqvist
Zadorov-Mitchell
de Haan-Lilegren
(Seabrook)

All pairs have vet to pair with kid

 

[Notsince67]

Kane for Marner. Cap hits close enough. Chicago gets a cornerstone for the rebuild, and Toronto gets somewhere in the playoffs.

That isnt how rebuilds work.

 

[Notsince67]

Toews and Kane in Vegas would kind of make sense if they hadn't blown their budget on Pietrangelo and could shed Fleury and Pacioretty. They seem to be missing a high end finisher and a number one center.

Seattle would might come to the table for futures. They would want big name talent to start selling merch and tickets.