Speculation: Hawks Aggressively Shopping Brandon Manning and Jan Rutta

[Rebels57]

Manning never should have been signed. Flyers fans tried to warn you. Worst defensemen in the league and he got a 2 year deal AND A RAISE.

 

[go4hockey]

Yep I can see one of them and a pick going to LA for Muzzin or Martinez. Chicago is also heavily scouting LA.

Should be interesting to see how all of this pans out...

Why in the world would LA consider that type of deal for either top 4 guy. We don’t need your guys that are not good but picks and prospects will be the ask.

 

[go4hockey]

Jan Rutta (with Retention) for Martin Marincin & 6th

LHD for RHD

It will cost you much more than a 6th to get someone to take on the Marincin contract.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

It will cost you much more than a 6th to get someone to take on the Marincin contract.

your right... $800,000/year is insane. He may be un-tradable.

 

[go4hockey]

your right... $800,000/year is insane. He may be un-tradable.

That’s ok I for some reason thought he was multi years left. No bad but still a useless player.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

That’s ok I for some reason thought he was multi years left. No bad but still a useless player.

fair enough lol

 

[Spectra]

Hahaha, how does Bowman still have a job?

I'll take a puck chewed on by a dog or raccoon for Manning and a case of Staropramen or Gambrinus for Rutta.

 

[Tripod]

Whoever trades for Manning also gets a loyal poster and Manning fan.

 

[Cor]

Now I want to see Manning to PHI to watch Philly burn

 

[qqaz]

Why in the world would LA consider that type of deal for either top 4 guy. We don’t need your guys that are not good but picks and prospects will be the ask.

I think any Hawks fan knows that there would be substantial picks going to LA if they ended up getting Muzzin or Martinez.

If I was Chicago, I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger. They're clearly still committed to the core of the team, and they're sinking. A 20 plus minute defender could seriously help them out.

 

[Esq]

I think any Hawks fan knows that there would be substantial picks going to LA if they ended up getting Muzzin or Martinez.

If I was Chicago, I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger. They're clearly still committed to the core of the team, and they're sinking. A 20 plus minute defender could seriously help them out.

Given where the Hawks are likely to finish this year, this is exactly the time to save your picks, not spend them.

 

[qqaz]

Given where the Hawks are likely to finish this year, this is exactly the time to save your picks, not spend them.

I hear you. But not every team/organization/ownership group is in love with the idea of a rebuild. From everything I can see, Chicago is trying to breathe new life into the existing team. If there's a way to get a top 4 D and stop this tailspin, I think they would be interested.

If the cost is this year`s first rounder, then of course Chicago might not bite. But there`s a lot of other offers they could make that could be of interest to LA.

 

[Meeqs]

Man SB has gotten so so desperate at this point.

 

[JetsFan815]

Depends on the trade. We'd be willing to deal him for a 2nd or a prospect equivalent to that value.

The Jets should definitely be in on that if that's the price. Better contract than Manning and Rutta and imo a better player too. I hope Chevy gives Stan a call.

 

[Riptide]

Giving up a 2nd to have a low probability of making the playoffs and then getting throttled in the first round by Nashville or Winnipeg is idiotic...I’m not saying Muzzin or Martinez are not worth a 2nd+.

And this is the difference between a fan who has no stake in things, and a management team that:
A) wants to keep their jobs and where missing the POs is a knock against them
B) that knows that anything can happen once the POs start - but you need to make them first
C) that knows exactly how much money is lost by not making the POs. Every home PO game is MILLIONS in revenue for a team - especially for the 'big' teams. And for most teams, a 2nd for a player that will be around for 1 or 2+ years, AND a chance at PO games this season and next season.

I'm not saying the value is good or bad... just that your reasoning is faulty.

 

[Space umpire]

Lucic for both

Lucic for Seabrook.

 

[1865]

Manning for MacDonald

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Lucic for Seabrook.

Sure. I'll save 800k on the cap. More complicated is getting both players to waive their NMC.

 

[Jay haller]

Sure. I'll save 800k on the cap. More complicated is getting both players to waive their NMC.

Also Seabrook has twice as many points as Lucic.

Seabrook is likely still a sheltered #4 on a contender with a true shutdown pair.

Lucic is just straight washed

 

[Larry44]

Hawks would like to counter with Seabrook for Simmonds

Flyers counter with JVR for Seabrook.

 

[achdumeingute]

Flyers counter with JVR for Seabrook.

no we don't. You might hate JVR, but he's not that bad, nor is his contract.

 

[Larry44]

no we don't. You might hate JVR, but he's not that bad, nor is his contract.

Both player and contract are bad. Soft, slow, useless player. Hexy made a mistake he won't have to live with.

 

[Critical13]

Other teams aggressively avoiding Bowman's calls.

 

[achdumeingute]

Both player and contract are bad. Soft, slow, useless player. Hexy made a mistake he won't have to live with.

you are just being salty because you don't like him.

He's one of the top scoring LW in the NHL. He's a top net front presence on the PP. He's replacing Simmonds in that role. 7m is the new 5m...and he's signed to age 33.

It's really not bad at all.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Flyers counter with JVR for Seabrook.

Thought the rules were to offer up bad players?