Has Finland passed Sweden in top young player production?

[NyQuil]

Registered hockey players, basically every player that belongs to a league team.

Ice hockey players per country worldwide 2017/18 | Statistic

I’ve never been a fan of this statistic because it doesn’t distinguish between recreational and competitive hockey leagues.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Ah, okay. I see. Thx

Sweden has more U20 players. Finland counts beer league players also.

 

[Nizdizzle]

How did you compose your list? It seems to omit Nylander (age 22) for Sweden. I'm assuming its because he was Canadian-born? He plays for Sweden internationally, and came through the Swedish hockey system since he was 10/11 years old.

Are those just points for this year?

 

[CenturionOne]

No but the gap is definitely shrinking

 

[JAS 39 Gripen]

Fiiiinlands gonna Finland!

 

[Connor McConnor]

The best player between the two countries is likely going to be Elias Pettersson or Rasmus Dahlin. Both are Swedish. So no.

 

[PatrikBerglund]

Sweden has more U20 players. Finland counts beer league players also.

Sweden counts everyone involved in some form of league play, which includes beer leaguers.

 

[Tofveve]

Maybe. Maybe.

 

[sadpanda]

There is no decline, there is an increase for booth countries. Your lists are flawed though, why is Landeskog, for example left out of the U26's?

How old is Landeskog to you?

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

The best player between the two countries is likely going to be Elias Pettersson or Rasmus Dahlin. Both are Swedish. So no.

Neither will be better than Rantanen
Then Barkov can shutdown Pettersson like he did the Avs line the other night.

 

[Snauen]

How old is Landeskog to you?

He is 26. In an U21 team, people that are 21 and below in age are eligble to join. Guess the same rules apply to your imaginary u26-lists then, even whit the finnish bias. Try again.

 

[EhlersChin]

Why dont these Suomi back patting threads make their way to the Finland sub forum? It would he a much more appropriate place to high five about what's happening in finn hockey. Either that or sticky a thread for all finns to go into and tell each other how good they are.

 

[Snauen]

Why dont these Suomi back patting threads make their way to the Finland sub forum? It would he a much more appropriate place to high five about what's happening in finn hockey. Either that or sticky a thread for all finns to go into and tell each other how good they are.

Agreed , its almost like a Finish hf-troll-factory these days whit this.
You know, the ones that are really the best, or top notch, at something, don't need to brag or make much noice about it, they just are.

 

[Tomas W]

I would say thats a pretty close call on this. But sure, one have to say that Finlands new generation is very impressive.

 

[MrThomas]

The Calder is going to Pettersson, there's no "or" at the moment to anyone outside of Finland. Heiskanen is merely one of the runner-ups along Dahlin, White and Tkachuk.

Of course there is ”or”. Do you really think they will decide the winner after 30 games? Injuries can happen like 2 years ago to Laine and 3 years ago to David. Also its really hard to compare a better player between a defencemen and forwards.

 

[MrThomas]

The best player between the two countries is likely going to be Elias Pettersson or Rasmus Dahlin. Both are Swedish. So no.

Haha thanks for the laugh

Rantanen and Barkov are much better than these two. Laine is just better, not much better.

Heiskanen is also better than Dahlin.

Pettersson might become really good but we’ll see.

 

[sessiroth]

U23 top 50* points in the NHL:
7 x Finns (Rantanen,Aho,Laine,Kapanen,Heiskanen,Kotkanieni,Jokiharju)
4 x Swedes (Pettersson,Dahlin,Lindblom,Bratt)

U26 top 50** points in the NHL:
7 x Finns, 6 x Swedes
(Rantanen,Aho,Barkov,Laine,Kapanen,Teräväinen,Ristolainen)
(Lindholm,Pettersson,Zibanejad,WKarlsson,Forsberg,Rakell)

* top 20, 4 x Finns, 1 x Swede
**top 30, 5 x Finns 2 x Swedes

PS. in U21 its 9 and 5 for the Finns

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U23 top 50*,** goals in the NHL:
5 x Finns (Laine,Rantanen,Kapanen,Aho,Heiskanen)
2 x Swedes (Pettersson,Kempe)

U26 top 50*** goals in the NHL:
6 x Finns, 6 x Swedes
(Laine,Rantanen,Barkov,Kapanen,Aho)
(Lindholm,Pettersson,Forsberg,WKarlsson,Åberg,Zibanejad,

*top 20, 3 x Finns, 1 x Swede
** top 30, 4 x Finns, 1 x Swede
*** top 15, 3 x Swedes, 1 x Finn

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What happened Sweden? You were so much ahead of us.
- sure the total numbers of NHL players in still to Sweden (88 to 50 this season)
but the number of top young Swedish players...is the production in decline?.

This post obviously has an agenda.

No William Nylander posted for Sweden? No landeskog for U26?

Nylander was the 2017 iihf world championship mvp so to leave him out is laughable. He's one of Sweden's top end high talent players.

 

[Marshy71]

I think its more that the emphasis on developing youngsters that finland started a while back has now started to pay off. If done right they should start churning out the talent like we are seeing.

I remember someone posting a good article on these boards on it.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Heiskanen is better than Dahlin and Klingberg.

What? This is the most ridiculous thing I've read all day.

 

[sadpanda]

He is 26. In an U21 team, people that are 21 and below in age are eligble to join. Guess the same rules apply to your imaginary u26-lists then, even whit the finnish bias. Try again.

Maybe he is just talking about under 26, you know? Not 26. And how is this my list?

 

[RorschachWJK]

Registered hockey players, basically every player that belongs to a league team.

Ice hockey players per country worldwide 2017/18 | Statistic

This has been rebuked in the past I think. The way player numbers are counted in the two countries is quite different.

 

[RedLeader]

The only thing Finland is beating Sweden at is their inferiority complex , hence threads like these .

 

[Honest M]

This has been rebuked in the past I think. The way player numbers are counted in the two countries is quite different.

In finland hockey are the no1 sport in sweden it´s third or fourth. Think soccer have three or four times nr of players in sweden. So finland probably have more hockey players no matter how you count.

 

[RorschachWJK]

In finland hockey are the no1 sport in sweden it´s third or fourth. Think soccer have three or four times nr of players in sweden. So finland probably have more hockey players no matter how you count.

Wrong. The number of football players in Finland is very close to double the number of people playing hockey.

 

[tuozzi]

The only thing Finland is beating Sweden at is their inferiority complex , hence threads like these .

Amen.
Could you guys please stop with these? I'm all cringed out..