Has Finland passed Sweden in top young player production?

[Artorius Horus T]

U23 top 50* points in the NHL:
7 x Finns (Rantanen,Aho,Laine,Kapanen,Heiskanen,Kotkanieni,Jokiharju)
4 x Swedes (Pettersson,Dahlin,Lindblom,Bratt)

U26 top 50** points in the NHL:
7 x Finns, 6 x Swedes
(Rantanen,Aho,Barkov,Laine,Kapanen,Teräväinen,Ristolainen)
(Lindholm,Pettersson,Zibanejad,WKarlsson,Forsberg,Rakell)

* top 20, 4 x Finns, 1 x Swede
**top 30, 5 x Finns 2 x Swedes

PS. in U21 its 9 and 5 for the Finns

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U23 top 50*,** goals in the NHL:
5 x Finns (Laine,Rantanen,Kapanen,Aho,Heiskanen)
2 x Swedes (Pettersson,Kempe)

U26 top 50*** goals in the NHL:
6 x Finns, 6 x Swedes
(Laine,Rantanen,Barkov,Kapanen,Aho)
(Lindholm,Pettersson,Forsberg,WKarlsson,Åberg,Zibanejad,

*top 20, 3 x Finns, 1 x Swede
** top 30, 4 x Finns, 1 x Swede
*** top 15, 3 x Swedes, 1 x Finn

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What happened Sweden? You were so much ahead of us.
- sure the total numbers of NHL players in still to Sweden (88 to 50 this season)
but the number of top young Swedish players...is the production in decline?.

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[Phil McKraken]

Probably has more to do with most of Sweden's top young players being d-men at the moment. Got a great forward group coming up in the 2020 draft though.

 

[Cellee]

They are both doing great at development right now.

Fun to see.

 

[Riddum]

Will be interesting Olympics the next time around...oh wait

 

[Holymakinaw]

Doubtful.

Finland may have a good crop right now, but Sweden has a lot coming for next year. And with 10.5 million people in Sweden as opposed to 5.5 million in Finland, it's just way more likely that Sweden will continue to pump out more premier hockey prospects/players.......just because of sheer numbers.

 

[gwh]

More interestingly 26% of the top50 point scorers are either Finnish or Swedish. Add Russians, USA, rest of EU and the Canadian share starts look 50% or less.

 

[Snauen]

U23 top 50* points in the NHL:
7 x Finns (Rantanen,Aho,Laine,Kapanen,Heiskanen,Kotkanieni,Jokiharju)
4 x Swedes (Pettersson,Dahlin,Lindblom,Bratt)

U26 top 50** points in the NHL:
7 x Finns, 6 x Swedes
(Rantanen,Aho,Barkov,Laine,Kapanen,Teräväinen,Ristolainen)
(Lindholm,Pettersson,Zibanejad,WKarlsson,Forsberg,Rakell)

* top 20, 4 x Finns, 1 x Swede
**top 30, 5 x Finns 2 x Swedes

PS. in U21 its 9 and 5 for the Finns

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U23 top 50*,** goals in the NHL:
5 x Finns (Laine,Rantanen,Kapanen,Aho,Heiskanen)
2 x Swedes (Pettersson,Kempe)

U26 top 50*** goals in the NHL:
6 x Finns, 6 x Swedes
(Laine,Rantanen,Barkov,Kapanen,Aho)
(Lindholm,Pettersson,Forsberg,WKarlsson,Åberg,Zibanejad,

*top 20, 3 x Finns, 1 x Swede
** top 30, 4 x Finns, 1 x Swede
*** top 15, 3 x Swedes, 1 x Finn

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What happened Sweden? You were so much ahead of us.
- sure the total numbers of NHL players in still to Sweden (88 to 50 this season)
but the number of top young Swedish players...is the production in decline?.

There is no decline, there is an increase for booth countries. Your lists are flawed though, why is Landeskog, for example left out of the U26's?

 

[Hockeyfrilla]

Both countries are doing well with a small player pool compared to Canada, USA, Russia and even Czech Republic.

 

[KingJoffrey]

No. The difference is D and Swedes have huge advantage in that department. Hedman, Karlsson, Dahlin, Lindholm, Ekholm, Ekman-Larsson, Klingberg are all better than Finn's best D-man.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Just amazing the production of these countries given their population size! Especially Finland.
Their minor hockey development programs must be top notch.

 

[Jaska]

No. But it's close.

 

[CashMash]

No. The difference is D and Swedes have huge advantage in that department. Hedman, Karlsson, Dahlin, Lindholm, Ekholm, Ekman-Larsson, Klingberg are all better than Finn's best D-man.

I wouldn't put Dahlin on that list yet, and Heiskanen is doing some great things. Still, the spirit of what you are saying is correct.

 

[Kel Varnson]

I know you meant young players as a whole but the two running away with the Calder are both swedish.

Finlands recent flux of talent has been quite impressive though

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

No. The difference is D and Swedes have huge advantage in that department. Hedman, Karlsson, Dahlin, Lindholm, Ekholm, Ekman-Larsson, Klingberg are all better than Finn's best D-man.

Heiskanen is better than Dahlin and Klingberg.

 

[IPS]

Heiskanen is better than Dahlin and Klingberg.

Is that guy in your profile pic the Asian company guy from Prison Break? I loved that show!

 

[trick9]

I know you meant young players as a whole but the two running away with the Calder are both swedish.

Finlands recent flux of talent has been quite impressive though

Is that Dahlin?

How is he ''running away with the Calder''? Or am i missing something? Heiskanen has been better than him. I don't think there is an argument where Dahlin has been much better than him.

Petterson is insanely good, but Finland IMO has the better forwards right now.

 

[MrThomas]

I know you meant young players as a whole but the two running away with the Calder are both swedish.

Finlands recent flux of talent has been quite impressive though

Calder is going to Pettersson or Heiskanen. And Heiskanen is Finnish not Swedish.

 

[Phil McKraken]

Calder is going to Pettersson or Heiskanen. And Heiskanen is Finnish not Swedish.

The Calder is going to Pettersson, there's no "or" at the moment to anyone outside of Finland. Heiskanen is merely one of the runner-ups along Dahlin, White and Tkachuk.

 

[Honest M]

Doubtful.

Finland may have a good crop right now, but Sweden has a lot coming for next year. And with 10.5 million people in Sweden as opposed to 5.5 million in Finland, it's just way more likely that Sweden will continue to pump out more premier hockey prospects/players.......just because of sheer numbers.

Finland have more active ice hockey players than sweden so that is not correct. With same quality in program finland would produce more talent due to bigger pool.

 

[wetcoast]

Probably has more to do with most of Sweden's top young players being d-men at the moment. Got a great forward group coming up in the 2020 draft though.

This and applying points as the only metric isn't the best way to argue the OP.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Finland have more active ice hockey players than sweden so that is not correct. With same quality in program finland would produce more talent due to bigger pool.

Where? In the NHL? Sweden has more than Finland.

 

[Healthy DiPietro]

Where? In the NHL? Sweden has more than Finland.

Registered hockey players, basically every player that belongs to a league team.

Ice hockey players per country worldwide 2017/18 | Statistic

 

[Holymakinaw]

Registered hockey players, basically every player that belongs to a league team.

Ice hockey players per country worldwide 2017/18 | Statistic

Ah, okay. I see. Thx

 

[PatrikBerglund]

Yes.

 

[NyQuil]

I’m pretty sure Finland has passed all other nations in terms of the number of threads about how well their country is doing.