Mainehockey33
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Beleskey’s contract was worse because it was longer but Foligno was basically Beleskey/Hayes level of disappointment in Boston. Backes was better.
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Beleskey’s contract was worse because it was longer but Foligno was basically Beleskey/Hayes level of disappointment in Boston. Backes was better.
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At least Backes can say his first season in Boston wasn't a total disaster. Decent production (half a PPG), solid in the playoffs vs. Ottawa. For the life of me I'll never figure out why Claude Julien immediately put him on RW. In the two seasons prior, Backes had averaged over 1100 faceoffs each year with a over 53% win percentage. 14th in Selke voting in 2016, 4th in 2015. I don't buy the foot-speed argument. Julien used the likes of Kemppainen up the middle that year and I'd take Backes over him in a foot-race 99 times out of 100. Julien decided Backes would be Nathan Horton 2.0 and it failed both the team and the player.
They should of just kept Lucic and said no to Beleskey, Backes, and Foligno.
Mainehockey33
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Completely agree with playing Backes as 3C, I don’t even remember who was playing 3rd line center before Coyle but I wanted to see Backes play there too. If Lucic signed a more reasonable deal then sure, at least you’re getting a winner. I’ll take Lucic at $1M over Foligno at anything over a million.
The icing on the cake with Foligno is he signs with one of the worst teams in the league at a cap hit that’s going to be pretty ugly for contenders at the deadline. He’ll get his ice time though.
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Going into 2016 I felt if the Bruins could get another strong two-way center (Jordan Stall was my first choice, but also supported the Backes signing) who could take some of the offensive AND defensive load off 37 and 46, it would benefit all three players. Strong face-off guy. I figured Backes would play mostly full-time center in the first few years of the deal, and maybe transition to the wing in the last couple years. But Julien never saw it that way clearly.
I will say this about Foligno signing in Chicago (and it would also apply to Perry). The money they are making this year is essentially the premium Chicago had to pay to get both of these players to essentially give up on their cup aspirations and come to Chicago to provide a strong veteran leadership group for Bedard, etc. Both could of said no and hoped they'd hook onto a contender for one last shot at glory for 775k-1.0 million and small chance at a cup. An offer that wasn't guaranteed to come their way (especially Foligno). If Foligno wasn't in Chicago I'm not sure he's even in the league next year.
But instead both took the money knowing that next season they can forget about cups or playoffs for that matter but they'll dress every night, mentor some young players, and make a pile of case doing so. They took the sure thing. I'd also say in Foligno's case he played in Ottawa when Richardson was Assistant Coach and they likely respected one another and a no doubt Foligno is looking at his post-playing career. I almost view him and Perry like highly paid playing assistant coaches and I don't think either is worried about being moved at the deadline. I'd say both were pretty cognizant that at 4 million per, trade deadline interest would be basically nil. Overall both took the safe bet and likely the smarter business move in the short and long term if it translates into post-career jobs on top of the 4 million.
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Foligno does sound more annoyed than just the regular 'competitive guy is disappointed to not be selected'. It seems that G7 scratching genuinely pissed him off. It's not hard to see why - last season was his best and last chance to win a Cup, and there he was sitting powerless upstairs while the team blew it and the opportunity went up in smoke, despite playing the first 6 games in the series and doing what he probably felt was a solid enough job in them. That has to hurt.
In the end it's probably the same as the Backes G7 in 2019 - almost certainly the Bruins lose whether he played or not. But it's hard for a veteran player to accept that. Don't hold it against Fliggy though. Right or wrong, he's hardly the first to criticize Monty over his playoffs decision-making, and he's entitled to his thoughts. What's done is done, good luck to him in Chicago.
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Lmao guy was a disaster here and wants to get mad that he got benched for game 7? He’s lucky he was even on the roster after his first year.
That's true, but he certainly wasn't the only one, so there's probably still that 'why me' element in his thinking. As I said, I don't think his scratching made any difference to the final outcome. The player thinks differently, so be it. He's entitled to his opinion on that. Take it as read and we move on.
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He probably could have taken the 5 and a half minutes Hathaway played I guess
He probably couldn't have done any worse. I think veterans will always feel they have something to contribute, especially in playoffs, and are more likely to feel hard done by when they're left out. Comes with the territory of being a well-established player.
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He also used to talk tough in the media without doing anything about it on the ice.
I got a lot of good material out of the Foligno's strongly worded letters bit.
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Horrible deal
Yeh let’s trade the Vezina goalie for a bottom 6 forward and a draft pick that has a 22% chance of succeeding
If you were joking, apologies
If you are serious for $20 an hour I’ll teach you about hockey and the players in the NHL, Europe, CHL (extra $5 for USHL and BCHL)
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Blows my mind that foligno had the audacity to say something to Montgomery about being benched.
The level of entitlement within oneself to think he should be handed a roster spot in game 7 despite the complete lack of production or ability to play despite every opportunity over a two year span is insane.
Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall for Montgomerys response
The level of entitlement within oneself to think he should be handed a roster spot in game 7 despite the complete lack of production or ability to play despite every opportunity over a two year span is insane.
Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall for Montgomerys response
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Don’t put yourself down - you are teachable
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My favorite part is the “I talked to Monty but I’m going to keep that private”
Which is inherently not keeping it private because he aired it out and everyone knows basically what was said.
This is just foligno being a crybaby while attempting to disguise it as him taking some form of high road
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