Rumor: Habs won’t qualify Rem Pitlick if he doesn’t sign before the deadline

Jared Dunn

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Would his QO not only be like 1.2 or something? Or is it arb rights that are the scary part? Would like to keep him and see them dump other wingers, hoped they might get him on a cheap 3 year
 

Captain Mountain

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Strange asset management considering they did so well at the TDL...

Really? Pitlick was one of the prime arbitration overpay possibilities. RFA coming off a season with unsustainable production and a limited game. There likely wasn't a trade market for him and you don't want to overpay him.
 
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CDN24

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so currently at 35 contracts plus 5 QO takes them to 40. can't qualify everyone as you will be up against the 50 limit pretty quick. What other prospects get a contract this year Slaf, They only 2 I consider are Pitlick - probably scared of arbitration multi year deal with too much $$ and Brook but so many other D prospects ahead of him now - need to save the contract spots.
 

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What's the story on this guy? I feel like I follow hockey pretty religiously and never heard a peep about this guy until this thread. That twitter thread has habs fans shedding tears. Fan fav of some degree?
 

Marc the Habs Fan

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Pitlick is eligible for arbitration.


with his season, he will be awarded a decent salary increase which Montreal would be obliged to accept for 1 year.

Yup, he was likely to get 2-2.5 M in arbitration.

The Habs have to shed 3-4 M just to be cap compliant, have a full roster and re-sign Dach and could not take the risk of waiting until possibly mid-August for a Pitlick arbitration number to come in and then have to shed significant $ when trades are rare at that point of the summer.

This is one of the consequences of being in cap hell.
 

CupInSIX

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Pitlick is eligible for arbitration.


with his season, he will be awarded a decent salary increase which Montreal would be obliged to accept for 1 year.

So keep him? What's it to a rebuilding team if a guy makes 1M too much? It's not like Armia, Byron and Gallagher aren't overpaid.
 

pth2

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So keep him? What's it to a rebuilding team if a guy makes 1M too much? It's not like Armia, Byron and Gallagher aren't overpaid.
There is still a salary cap to respect, you know. And the Habs don't have much wiggle room, despite being in a rebuild.
 

Hostile Offer

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What's the story on this guy? I feel like I follow hockey pretty religiously and never heard a peep about this guy until this thread. That twitter thread has habs fans shedding tears. Fan fav of some degree?
Pitlick was indeed surprisingly good for a waiver pickup. The problem seems to be that he's arbitration eligible and the Habs management doesn't want to go there because they're still kinda tight on the cap and Pitlick likely isn't the .5+ PPG player he'll be treated as by the arbitrator. It would've been nice to keep him around or at least get something for him in a trade but I'm not losing any sleep over it. He'll be an NHL regular somewhere next year though, that's for sure.
 

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Josh Brook is now also a UFA. He showed up in too many trade threads. Mete also a UFA (via Ottawa). Another guy that ended up being worth nothing.
 

Scintillating10

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Yup, he was likely to get 2-2.5 M in arbitration.

The Habs have to shed 3-4 M just to be cap compliant, have a full roster and re-sign Dach and could not take the risk of waiting until possibly mid-August for a Pitlick arbitration number to come in and then have to shed significant $ when trades are rare at that point of the summer.

This is one of the consequences of being in cap hell.
Hughes wouldn't have back himself into a corner like that. He must the caproom. Likely Price on LTIR or a trade coming. Petry?
 

Sergei Shirokov

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Little surprised they walked away from Brook, seemed like a good prospect not long ago.

Pitlick is interesting, great production but limited sample size. Will be interesting to see what he gets.
 

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Really? Pitlick was one of the prime arbitration overpay possibilities. RFA coming off a season with unsustainable production and a limited game. There likely wasn't a trade market for him and you don't want to overpay him.
Does not hurt to see as what the award would have been if they went that way. They could walk away unless the rules have changed. So if Pitlick had opted for arbitration the Habs that option. And how do you know the production was not sustainable? Anyways guess we shall see what they give Dach...

In certain circumstances a team can walk away from an arbitration award, and the player becomes a UFA. Players cannot. Only player-elected arbitration comes with walk-away rights for the team. Teams can also walk away from the second year of two-year awards, which makes the player a UFA at that time.
 

Marc the Habs Fan

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Does not hurt to see as what the award would have been if they went that way. They could walk away unless the rules have changed. So if Pitlick had opted for arbitration the Habs that option. And how do you know the production was not sustainable? Anyways guess we shall see what they give Dach...

In certain circumstances a team can walk away from an arbitration award, and the player becomes a UFA. Players cannot. Only player-elected arbitration comes with walk-away rights for the team. Teams can also walk away from the second year of two-year awards, which makes the player a UFA at that time.

The walkaway number is $4,538,958.

Anything under that and you have to keep the player.

The Habs can not plan for Price to be on LTIR when there's no clarity on his situation and quite frankly it seems clear they want nothing to do with going into LTIR anymore (which is why they dealt Weber's contract) considering how many entry level bonuses they will have.
 
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Captain Mountain

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Does not hurt to see as what the award would have been if they went that way. They could walk away unless the rules have changed. So if Pitlick had opted for arbitration the Habs that option. And how do you know the production was not sustainable? Anyways guess we shall see what they give Dach...

In certain circumstances a team can walk away from an arbitration award, and the player becomes a UFA. Players cannot. Only player-elected arbitration comes with walk-away rights for the team. Teams can also walk away from the second year of two-year awards, which makes the player a UFA at that time.

Per section 12.10 of the CBA, a team could only walk away if the award is over 4,538,958. If Pitlick got something in the 3 mil range (which isn't outlandish), Montreal would not be able to walk away. That would really hurt Montreal.

I don't think the 2020 MOU changed that.
 

HuGo Sham

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Honestly I don't care. He was a nice pickup and played well here but if he wants to chase the money, God bless. He was a fun fit with suzuki and caufield. Habs have far too many wingers anyway
 

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