Confirmed with Link: Habs re-sign Andrighetto to 1 year deal
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Cole Caulifield
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Milhouse40
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Also known as : You'll pay me NHL money even if the coach screw with me like last year....
Cole Caulifield
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People aren't concerned about it. It's a bit of a game to guess what it's going to be, and people are curious to know the real figure.
You're the one with the bizarre insistence on cap hit of players not mattering. Which they do regardless of your unwillingness to admit that they do. Of course in Ghetto's case whether he's paid 500K or 700K, the two extremes.. it wasn't going to be a big deal worth crying about. But if a GM overpays players by 200K per on average over 23 players it becomes 2,6M in cap space. 2,6M in cap space is going from a 3,4M player to a 6M (DD or Eller versus Plekanec). It's going from being able to sign a Chris Stewart to a Carl Hagelin. So even such a small difference.. it adds up quick. It matters for teams who spend to the cap - which we do (minus a small allowance for acquiring more valuable players at the deadline).
Isn't it possible that if our scouts and management has identified that Hudon isn't likely to be an NHL regular, than any other team scouting us has come to the same conclusion?
Hudon is unfortunately irrelevant at this point. He's going to be expansion draft eligible, and it's very unlikely that he works his way into our top 7. If he has the NHL potential that some think he has than he's likely to be taken, and if he doesn't, well than he doesn't.
The above holds true in trading him as well. I doubt he's in any teams top 7 to protect, and if he's good enough to trade for, he's probably good enough to take in the expansion. I can't see anybody trading for very many fringe players who are expansion eligible this season.
Lebowski
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Hudon isn't waiver eligible, so no, I'm pretty sure this isn't his "last chance". As a matter of fact, he hasn't even been given a chance yet.
Which is.....****in weird after a 28 goal season in the AHL. Not sure why he didn't get a better chance this year.
edit: I obviously meant AHL.
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LaP
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He's 21. It's common for players to play two full AHL seasons. Was it Tyler Johnson's last chance when he played two AHL seasons in Syracuse?
So funny to me how obsessed with youngsters this place is only for other guys to proclaim a players career near dead at 21.
I can honestly see Sven getting 18-24 goals along with 14-18 helpers next season as a third liner predominately.
Kid is a late bloomer and he has the making of a perennial 25 goals scorer.
With his release and his knack of been at the right place at the right time; I'd also not be surprise to see him bucket 28-35 goals in 2-3 years time.
kid is a gem hidden in plain sight.
Kid is a late bloomer and he has the making of a perennial 25 goals scorer.
With his release and his knack of been at the right place at the right time; I'd also not be surprise to see him bucket 28-35 goals in 2-3 years time.
kid is a gem hidden in plain sight.
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No? Do you know why? 'Cause we have him only since 2012, and that there are NUMEROUS examples of players doing better with their 2nd team than they do with their 1st team. And there are examples of players that don't have their original team favors that happens to work elsewhere. If, like the poster said, they have INSIDE incredible secret infos that makes Hudon not worth our time, maybe those teams don't have access to that. We have access to Hudon every single day. Other teams see what they see when he plays. And end-results are that 50ish points in his 2 first pro seasons. Can't be seen too negatively.
At the very freakin worst, the only thing I was expecting is to see him get a fair chance in a losing season. I'm obviously not at "We are so much wasting an incredible hall of famer here".
LastWordArmy
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Andrighetto's deal good for both sides
http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/12/sven-andrighetto-deal/
http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/12/sven-andrighetto-deal/
LastWordArmy
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Hudon has at least 2 full seasons to crack the Habs lineup IMO.
If he still hasn't cracked it by the end of the 2017-18 season, then I will worry.
Firstly - I've never argued cap hits don't matter
Secondly - Sven Andrighetto's contract was pretty much pre-determined, there was only a certain amount of money he could possibly sign for - this is as standard as it gets in terms of contracts
Haggling over 200K either way, seems bizarre to me...even more bizarre than the suggestion that 200K overpayment spread across 23 players creates a problem lol
I mean, the system (CBA) is created in a way for that to be impossible to ever happen, so this "sky is falling" scenario you've created is just a fantasy
Hudon is one of the few prospects the Habs have which I'm concerned the least with
They've actually groomed him the right way, he's going to be ripe whenever he becomes an NHL'er and I suspect he won't be up and down in terms of NHL and AHL when he does eventually breakthrough
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To be honest if he doesn't play more than 5 games this season I'll worry. Not necessarily about him but about his future here. He would not be the first young player we trade before giving him a real chance just to see him blossom elsewhere.
But if he plays around 20 games this season to replace injured players and do well then i don't see the problem he's still young and like you said he still has 2 years before needing to go thru waivers.
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Even by HF standards, this is jumping the gun to a whole new level. Yeah, he probably deserved a shot this year given the circumstances. They instead let him play big minutes in the AHL, where he excelled.
The kid hasn't even turned 22 yet, and people are acting like it's one minute before midnight. He'll get his chance.
To preface this, I fully expected to see more of Hudon myself. It's very surprising that he got very little opportunity. Maybe this was because of different needs at different times throughout the season, I don't know. But I agree that it was disappointing to not see him get more of a shot.
To your first point, there are a lot more fringe prospects that get traded who never make it than players who break out on their second team. If you are accepting (hypothetically) that management has judged Hudon of being unworthy, than it's not fair to assume there would be a ton of interest from other teams around the NHL. Because of familiarity, we are likely to make that identification quicker, but other team will do their due diligence beyond looking at game sheets. They can very likely see some of these same issues that we maybe have.
There is obviously an issue with something. Maybe it's Speed as one poster eluded to earlier, maybe it's size. Maybe it's both.
Anyways, back to Andrighetto. This contract isn't great for us, in the ways that a 650k contract can be bad. His agent obviously see's the writing on the wall and that there is a very good chance that Andrighetto get's top 6 ice time this coming season. Consistent top 6 role could easily see 40+ points and a bit of a payday next year. Would have been nice to get an extra year of a sub 1M cap hit, but I understand why the agent didn't let that happen given our lineup.
Thats the question. Why is Hudon getting passed over by other players on the depth chart. JDR doesn't score as much, McCarron in his 1st year as a pro yet they got more opportunities.
I hope whatever the issue is MB/MT told Hudon about it and he has worked on it during the summer.
Mario le Magnifique
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Good signing, 1-way deal so seems like he's got a regular / press box spot, good for him, now it's his chance to produce and take a spot on our scoring lines.
At the end of the season he scored at PPG pace for 10 games or so, he made nifty passes to Galchenyuk who was hot. They had good chemistry for the few last weeks.
At the end of the season he scored at PPG pace for 10 games or so, he made nifty passes to Galchenyuk who was hot. They had good chemistry for the few last weeks.
If you are going to be writing articles about this kind of thing, you should do a bit more research to make sure you are posting factual statements.
A player's waiver eligibility has nothing to do with his contract being one-way or two-way. A one-way contract means that Andrighetto's salary will be the same whether he plays in the NHL or AHL. A two-way contract has two different salaries, paid based on whether a player is in the NHL or AHL during the contract.
