Post-Game Talk: Habs play like Romaine lettuce and lose to Devils 2-5

[Mrb1p]

Paired with a puck mover like Markov or Josi, sure.

Paired with Schlemko, that only works in Belial's dreams.

Not denying that at all, but lets admit the first take was something special.

 

[Tyson]

Where is the Obvious reasoning? His age 30+ stats are on par or better than his career stats. Do you consider a freak shot to his foot while he played hurt for 26 games evidence of decline? Or are you being sarcastic?

Ok-
He is 33 now and has never been a fast skating puck mover. Injuries are starting to hit him as do many players who age. I hope he rebounds from them.

His contract will become an albatross around this team’s neck sooner rather than later. Yes, I believe he and Price are on the decline

 

[waffledave]

Not denying that at all, but lets admit the first take was something special.

It was hyperbole, but with the cast of players he has to support him he's not going to end up looking much better.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I'm personally not worried about Weber. No set backs yet and he is ahead of schedule. He's 33, not 38. I expect 4 or 5 more good seasons from him. He played on a fractured foot for most of the year last year and still had 16 pts in 26 games with 6 goals. I'll let you prorate that to a 82 game season. His age 30+ stats are on par or better than his career stats. He's not in decline. Lets talk about it when that comes, not before. Aren't you tired of talking about it? It's been 3 years now and still no evidence.

But yes, we lack quality. Weber, Petry, Juulsen are the only real top 4D guys we got and two of them are hurt at the moment. Then we got a cluster of 3 pairing depth guys.

I'm not counting on Weber coming back and saving our team. But he will provide stability, reliability, shut down ability, and some PP shot power. Once Weber and Juulsen are healthy, it's much better than Petry and a bunch of 3rd pairing depth.

His Montreal stats are a bit under and NOT better. His career average is about 50 points if you remove his first 3 seasons before he really broke out. He had 42 when he played a full season. His 16 in 26 averages to 50. In total, in Montreal, he's a bit under his average. Nothing alarming.

 

[sheed36]

Nilan just said that the Habs have given up 228 shots in their last 6 games. How bad do the coaching staff really view MB's prized UFA Alzner if he can't crack this disaster of a defense while earning 4.5m sitting in the pressbox.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I can't believe people liked this comment it's one of worst takes I've seen on a player in a long time

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Nilan just said that the Habs have given up 228 shots in their last 6 games. How bad do the coaching staff really view MB's prized UFA Alzner if he can't crack this disaster of a defense while earning 4.5m sitting in the pressbox.

Perhaps Marc's voice and meddling has been silenced and Julien finally has security to scratch Alzy.

One consistent thing about Clod is bad defense drives him nuts and Alzy is the worst of them all.

 

[saintflannel]

Give Fleury at look with the big club. What's there to lose? Kulak too. Ouellet, Mete and Schlemko just aren't good enough.

 

[waffledave]

Nilan just said that the Habs have given up 228 shots in their last 6 games. How bad do the coaching staff really view MB's prized UFA Alzner if he can't crack this disaster of a defense while earning 4.5m sitting in the pressbox.

But I was told that Alzner might be Petry's most realiable partner EVER.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

But I was told that Alzner might be Petry's most realiable partner EVER.

To be fair, most people on the outside looking in say things like that about their hot shot newcomer signed 12 minutes into FA.

Alzner had Ovie Afterglow.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Nilan just said that the Habs have given up 228 shots in their last 6 games. How bad do the coaching staff really view MB's prized UFA Alzner if he can't crack this disaster of a defense while earning 4.5m sitting in the pressbox.

100%

Schlemko, Alzner, Benn and Mete have all been worse than they've shown as well. Not sure why.

Although Alzner it was obvious from his very first "picklegate" press conference that he was damaged goods.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

100%

Schlemko, Alzner, Benn and Mete have all been worse than they've shown as well. Not sure why.

Mete is not fully developed and probably being forced to grow up too quickly.

The rest well...they are what they are.

 

[waffledave]

To be fair, most people on the outside looking in say things like that about their hot shot newcomer signed 12 minutes into FA.

Alzner had Ovie Afterglow.

Most of us saw the guy play in Washington. A f***ing dud that they were over the moon to get rid of.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Most of us saw the guy play in Washington. A ****ing dud that they were over the moon to get rid of.

Most on HF in the Canadiens board. Not the general population.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Give Fleury at look with the big club. What's there to lose? Kulak too. Ouellet, Mete and Schlemko just aren't good enough.

Kulak should absolutely be playing in the NHL. He's just a marginal upgrade though and everyone but Mete out of our LHDs would have to go through waivers and Mete is the best of the bunch so Kulak is in a tough position right now. Not that it would mean much to lose Ouellet or Schlemko on waivers but if we call up Kulak and Laval gets no one to replace him it severely damages them.

 

[FlatIron]

Romaine lettuce actually has the power to kill you.

 

[Finnhabs]

Defense needs a complete overhaul, they are complete pylons in front of the net with zero awareness. Schlemko playing in the second PP unit says it all. Petry is a borderline top pair defenseman and plays inconsistently in defensive zone. I would get rid of all the scrubs besides Mete, Juulsen and maybe, just maybe Petry. Last nites games Devils made fools outta Petry, Ouellet and Schlemko on three different goals.

 

[groovejuice]

Missed the last couple of games, wife is in hospital after collapsing. Nice to see that the JAM line is still producing, can barely wait for Weber to be back in the lineup. Go Habs Go!!!...

Sorry to hear that. Best wishes that your wife recovers quickly.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Missed the last couple of games, wife is in hospital after collapsing. Nice to see that the JAM line is still producing, can barely wait for Weber to be back in the lineup. Go Habs Go!!!...

Best wishes to you and your wife.

 

[The Great Weal]

Paired with a puck mover like Markov or Josi, sure.

Paired with Schlemko, that only works in Belial's dreams.

Didnt he look like a heck of a good dman playing with an ahler in jerabek? He was also playing injured too. He played with emelin before that. Weber gets so much hate here its absurd, hes a fantastic dman. Not as good as Subban, but still a #1 dman until proven otherwise. Hes made all his partners look much better than they actually are on this team.

 

[Tyson]

Give Fleury at look with the big club. What's there to lose? Kulak too. Ouellet, Mete and Schlemko just aren't good enough.

Fleury is barely 20 and injured. Let’s let him play in Laval this year.

 

[Tyson]

Didnt he look like a heck of a good dman playing with an ahler in jerabek? He was also playing injured too. He played with emelin before that. Weber gets so much hate here its absurd, hes a fantastic dman. Not as good as Subban, but still a #1 dman until proven otherwise. Hes made all his partners look much better than they actually are on this team.

He is a good Dman, he appears to be on the decline. Knee operations, foot operations won’t help him become faster. He is slowing...

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Didnt he look like a heck of a good dman playing with an ahler in jerabek? He was also playing injured too. He played with emelin before that. Weber gets so much hate here its absurd, hes a fantastic dman. Not as good as Subban, but still a #1 dman until proven otherwise. Hes made all his partners look much better than they actually are on this team.

Good #2. Useless in the 2nd round or deeper in the playoffs. Unreliable out West and has potential for gaffe laden games like his last one in Nashville against San Jose. Built his reputation with Suter, who has gone on to perform excellently to the point of overuse in Minnesota.

 

[The Great Weal]

He is a good Dman, he appears to be on the decline. Knee operations, foot operations won’t help him become faster. He is slowing...

Which is why I said until proven otherwise. I'm not happy with the trade, but Weber is still a #1 dman imo

 

[sheed36]

Defense needs a complete overhaul, they are complete pylons in front of the net with zero awareness. Schlemko playing in the second PP unit says it all. Petry is a borderline top pair defenseman and plays inconsistently in defensive zone. I would get rid of all the scrubs besides Mete, Juulsen and maybe, just maybe Petry. Last nites games Devils made fools outta Petry, Ouellet and Schlemko on three different goals.

The defense needs a complete overhaul from the complete overhaul MB did to it before last season. MB before last season started "I think our defense will be better or at least on par with our defense from last season". Yeah right Marc.