Rumor: Habs made an offer to Gardiner, a multi-year offer.

[Milhouse40]

Not sure about Gardiner but then again....i'm not sure about any of our left D.

I got high hopes for Mete...but an offensive d-men without a goal in 2 year and who got outproduce by Benn last year isn't really encouraging

 

[mariolemieux66]

Can we just rebuild this team. My god, even with Gardiner we arent close to winning the cup.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

BOLD: he's realy not.

people just don't get my point.
if He's a habs next year:
YES Gardiner will be the best offensive Dman next season, but thats not the point, the FIT is awful. like i stated above he's a bandaid, a short term solution that will end up a cap archor. Montreal is in no urge to win or contend. Gardiner will barely make a difference in a overall team success in his short peak and will damage the team for the rest of his contract.

Petry is better offensively than Gardiner and would have put up better numbers than Gardiner if he had the same forwards playing in front of him.

 

[EveryDay]

That is not even close to being true. Gardiner is a cream puff who doesn't compete in front of the net or along the boards.

That's a myth.

Also Karlsson/Chabot/Rielly/Sergachev/Mete/Ghost/and several others are not the most fierce player in front of their own net, does that mean that MTL should stay away from thoses players if they come available?

Should we fill our top 6 with 6 Chiarot?

 

[417]

Not sure about Gardiner but then again....i'm not sure about any of our left D.

I got high hopes for Mete...but an offensive d-men without a goal in 2 year and who got outproduce by Benn last year isn't really encouraging

He's not an offensive Dman

He never has been

 

[LaP]

Kulak was one of our best defenceman after the all-star break last year. Zero chance he's not in our top 6.

People faith in Kulak is way too high. Niemi was our best player at the end of the 2017-2018 season playing better than Price himself.

 

[EveryDay]

Petry is better offensively than Gardiner and would have put up better numbers than Gardiner if he had the same forwards playing in front of him.

Say who? Petry was playing 1st PP waves for most of the season while Gardiner is getting the remaining seconds that Rielly left him after he goes out with the first wave. When did Petry hit the 50 points mark?

Petry is a little better then him, that I agree but don't act like the holykawawa(sp) on the main board who's saying that Gardiner is a piece of trash... He would be fairly easily be MTL 3rd best defenceman and a welcome addition to our team(if healthy of course).

 

[Tyson]

Can’t believe some here doesn’t want Gardiner because we have Kulak .../QUOTE]

 

[Tyson]

Kulak is a better player longterm. Gardiner is having back issues which I doubt will improve as he gets older

 

[Demon Wolf]

Gardiner would upgrade our blueline for sure but I'd want no longer than three years on the contract.

 

[Vachon23]

Kulak is a better player longterm. Gardiner is having back issues which I doubt will improve as he gets older

Kulak is a type of player that can find everywhere in the league.. he’s nothing special. Gardiner at least is a legit top 4

 

[HOPE]

The fit is awful? I disagree, IF he's healthy he's an awesome fit for MTL. His transition game is on par with Petry and MTL would benefit a tons to pair that guy with Weber. And damage the team with his contract? how so? we don't even know how many years were talking here, it might be only 2 or 3 years....

And seriously you don't think MTL would benefit from having a quaterback on the PP? I don't get it honestly

Alright that conversation is over, you simply dismiss my point.
You want to win NOW
I want to build a competitive team for the years to come, i'm ready to be patient.
it's clearly stated in the "rumor" long term deal. i'd slightly overpay for Gardiner for a 1 year deal as a stop gap LHD but thats about it ( he can show other team he can stay healthy), Not committing long term to a 29 year old with back issues, when we have a young core coming. the Extension of our young players will come faster than you think trust me.

Petry is better offensively than Gardiner and would have put up better numbers than Gardiner if he had the same forwards playing in front of him.

as much as people like to compare them, i don't think they are very similar, Petry moves the puck better in the Ozone but lacks offensive awarness in general, he constantly skates on the peremiter and takes shot from none existing angle while Gardiner creates more chances for himself and cuts down in danger zone wich create more scoring chances. Petry definitely has the better abilities, he just doesn't use them effectively... or very rarely.

 

[Gustave]

Come on, Gardiner with Weber does make sense...

If he’s at a discount, we shouldn’t balk at the notion of adding without dealing an asset.

 

[THE HOFF]

Like many have said ; it all depends on the term and $$$.

After alzner, I think its normal to be a little scared hahah

 

[26Mats]

Mete - Weber
Gardiner - Petry
Chariot - Kulak

is what I would start with if we get gardiner

I still would have preferred:

Mete Weber
Subban Petry
Kulak Juulsen/Chiarot

Or:

Gardiner Weber
Subban Petry
Kulak Mete/Juulsen

 

[1909]

It doesn’t mean Gardiner will accept the offer. I hope he won’t.

 

[Adriatic]

He would great on the power play. We desperately need a left puck moving defenseman. If the cap hit is decent he would be a great addition.

 

[EveryDay]

Alright that conversation is over, you simply dismiss my point.
You want to win NOW
I want to build a competitive team for the years to come, i'm ready to be patient.
it's clearly stated in the "rumor" long term deal. i'd slightly overpay for Gardiner for a 1 year deal as a stop gap LHD but thats about it ( he can show other team he can stay healthy), Not committing long term to a 29 year old with back issues, when we have a young core coming. the Extension of our young players will come faster than you think trust me.

It doesn't say long term deal in the article, they call it multi-year contract offer witch could really be 2 years deal and of course I want to win now, I'm watching MTL games and want them to win EVERY games, it's in my nature and I believe every fans should feel the same.

I get that, we will need $$$ to sign our young players in the near future but look at our cap charts, MTL are far from been in trouble regarding cap space. We're almost certain already that Petry and Tatar won't be back in 2 years and Alzner will have only one year remaining to his deal,he might even be bought. I agree with you about long term deal tho, I want nothing to do with a 5-6-7 years deal for Gardiner but if he can agree on a 2 or 3 year deal, I'm more then fine if the cap is no more then 6M. Not sure what I would do if it's 4 years, I'm on the fence about that 4th year.....

Whatever, let's wait and see, I'm not the biggest fan of TFP to be honest, I feel like their just asking for clicks on their site.

 

[Kent Nilsson]

I mean if we’re not gonna rebuild I’d rather the team be decent than awful, and Gardiner certainly makes a team better.

Can we just rebuild this team. My god, even with Gardiner we arent close to winning the cup.

No.

 

[The Great Weal]

Gardiner is ridiculously underrated on this board. He played with Zaitsev or Hainsey, of course he will have some terrible moments. Weber makes players around him better and Gardiner would look great next to him.

 

[Kent Nilsson]

He would great on the power play. We desperately need a left puck moving defenseman. If the cap hit is decent he would be a great addition.

Hes not even particularly good on the PP. He has no shot and his strength lies within using his skating to move the puck. Also he’s not as bad defensively as HFhabs has him (it’s getting ridiculous).

I dont think he wants to come here anyway.

 

[Vachon23]

Gardiner is ridiculously underrated on this board. He played with Zaitsev or Hainsey, of course he will have some terrible moments. Weber makes players around him better and Gardiner would look great next to him.

I actually think that 2 would complete each other perfectly

 

[TT1]

Can Kulak or Chiarot play RD?

Gardiner - Weber
Mete - Petry
Chiarot/Kulak - Kulak/Chiarot

If the term is right i'd sign him.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Depends the cost. If you get him at reasonable term/cap you can always trade him later.

 

[JianYang]

Friedman was saying that Montreal has been interested all along, so this isn't news.

He also said Gardiner (and I'm paraphrasing) is not really interested in Montreal.

I don't really find this to be surprising news based on what was already known.