Prospect Info: Grand Rapids Griffins 2018-19

[GrGriffins]

Chicago Wolves 3 at Grand Rapids Griffins 5 - Status: Final
Saturday, October 20, 2018 - Van Andel Arena

Chicago 0 3 0 - 3
Grand Rapids 2 2 1 - 5

1st Period-1, Grand Rapids, Elson 1 (Camper), 6:48. 2, Grand Rapids, Saarijarvi 1 (Holmstrom, Sateri), 19:52 (PP).

Penalties-Elson Gr (hooking), 7:11; Matteau Chi (boarding, fighting), 13:24; Carlisle Gr (cross-checking, fighting), 13:24; Smith Gr (roughing), 13:24; Lashoff Gr (cross-checking), 16:00; Hague Chi (hooking), 18:15; Macek Chi (hooking), 18:15.

2nd Period-3, Grand Rapids, Puempel 2 (Camper), 0:48. 4, Chicago, Tynan 3 (Pirri, Duke), 4:39. 5, Chicago, Pirri 2 (Brannstrom, Tynan), 5:44. 6, Chicago, Macek 4 (Whitecloud, Carr), 7:40. 7, Grand Rapids, Terry 2 (Zadina, Chelios), 11:40.

Penalties-Elson Gr (elbowing), 1:20; Yates Gr (kneeing), 15:56; Hague Chi (interference), 19:04.

3rd Period-8, Grand Rapids, Puempel 3 (Elson, Chelios), 19:28 (EN).

Penalties-Tynan Chi (tripping), 1:46; Camper Gr (hooking), 12:19.

Shots on Goal-Chicago 9-12-7-28. Grand Rapids 15-7-10-32.

Power Play Opportunities-Chicago 0 / 6; Grand Rapids 1 / 4.

Goalies-Chicago, Lagace 2-1-0 (31 shots-27 saves). Grand Rapids, Sateri 2-3-0 (28 shots-25 saves).

A-7,462

Referees-Tim Mayer (19), Stephen Reneau (34).
Linesmen-Jake Davis (23), Pat Richardson (67).

 

[Perfect Human]

Ben Street has 5 points in 8 games for the duckies this season

 

[waltdetroit]

Saarijarvi with his 1st AHL goal

 

[ShanahanMan]

Man Zadina, please start scoring some goals....

 

[NickH8]

Man Zadina, please start scoring some goals....

Tied for 2nd on the team in points and goals. Griffins haven't been doing well and they're only 6 games in, the goals will come.

 

[GrGriffins]

Man Zadina, please start scoring some goals....

Patience, Patience. Let the 18 yr old get use to the AHL. No hurry to rush the kid to the NHL. He will come around.

 

[GrGriffins]

I've got him over Hicketts and Sulak as a better prospect. His skating is so good, and not just his straight line speed. His lateral movement with the puck is great, and so is his escapability. He'll be a solid bottom 4 offensive defenseman for us. He's just got to work on his strength in his own zone.

Need to improve on getting his shot off faster. Waits a bit too long and most of his point shots gets blocked in front and does not get towards goal. Also needs to clear the puck out of his own zoned with more consistency. Good skater and can move the puck up ice.

 

[RedWingzz]

Zadina has no points and is -3 through 2 periods tonight.

Time to panic? I haven't watched any GR this year, but his stats are underwhelming. Maybe he's just not as good as we all thought? I am by no means writing him off, but I think I have to lower my expectations of a Kucherov 2.0, 40+ goal potential sniper. I am praying he's not just another "undersized 2nd line scorer". We have had too many of these recently.

EDIT: He is now -4 tonight, and an AHL WORST -9 on the season. This is not good at all. Can they send him back to junior? It's kinda sad that he is struggling this much in the AHL.

 

[RedWingzz]

Patience, Patience. Let the 18 yr old get use to the AHL. No hurry to rush the kid to the NHL. He will come around.

His plus minus rating makes me think he should have chosen to be a golfer. Zadina has been extremely underwhelming. This is not good at all.

 

[Inspiration]

Zadina has no points and is -3 through 2 periods tonight.

Time to panic? I haven't watched any GR this year, but his stats are underwhelming. Maybe he's just not as good as we all thought? I am by no means writing him off, but I think I have to lower my expectations of a Kucherov 2.0, 40+ goal potential sniper. I am praying he's not just another "undersized 2nd line scorer". We have had too many of these recently.

EDIT: He is now -4 tonight, and an AHL WORST -9 on the season. This is not good at all. Can they send him back to junior? It's kinda sad that he is struggling this much in the AHL.

Not sure about the rest of your post, but Zadina definitely isn't undersized.

 

[lidstromiscool]

Zadina has no points and is -3 through 2 periods tonight.

Time to panic? I haven't watched any GR this year, but his stats are underwhelming. Maybe he's just not as good as we all thought? I am by no means writing him off, but I think I have to lower my expectations of a Kucherov 2.0, 40+ goal potential sniper. I am praying he's not just another "undersized 2nd line scorer". We have had too many of these recently.

EDIT: He is now -4 tonight, and an AHL WORST -9 on the season. This is not good at all. Can they send him back to junior? It's kinda sad that he is struggling this much in the AHL.

Its been a handful of games, maybe pump the breaks a bit

 

[RedWingzz]

Its been a handful of games, maybe pump the breaks a bit

As I said, I'm not writing him off. I still have high hopes. It is definitely alarming, and at least worth discussing though. He was "supposed" to make our NHL team, and now he is terrible in the AHL. I know he's young, and let's hope this is just an experience thing, and that he is realizing the jump from junior to pro hockey is difficult.

In hindsight though, he should be playing in Halifax.

 

[Claypool]

It is definitely alarming, and at least worth discussing though.

Not really.

 

[RedWingzz]

Not really.

He has the absolute worst +/- in the entire AHL, and it's not worth discussing?

Lol you're right! Everything is fine! We're the best team ever!

 

[GrGriffins]

Grand Rapids Griffins 3 at Belleville Senators 5 - Status: Final
Friday, October 26, 2018 - CAA Arena

Grand Rapids 1 2 0 - 3
Belleville 2 2 1 - 5

1st Period-1, Belleville, Paul 2 (Rodewald, Batherson), 5:56 (PP). 2, Belleville, Tambellini 2 (Beauchemin, Percy), 6:56. 3, Grand Rapids, Elson 2 (Lashoff, Hronek), 10:29.

Penalties-Shine Gr (slashing), 5:50; Lashoff Gr (interference), 13:09; Percy Bel (interference), 16:43; Burgdoerfer Bel (tripping), 19:31.

2nd Period-4, Belleville, Percy 1 (Tambellini, Rodewald), 8:12. 5, Grand Rapids, Ford 2 (Chelios, Saarijarvi), 10:16. 6, Belleville, Sieloff 1 (Balisy, Sexton), 15:11 (SH). 7, Grand Rapids, Holmstrom 2 (Sulak, Megan), 16:03 (PP).

Penalties-Ford Gr (slashing), 0:42; Tambellini Bel (tripping), 1:11; Burgdoerfer Bel (holding), 4:31; Burgdoerfer Bel (slashing), 14:38; Puempel Gr (roughing), 20:00; Rodewald Bel (roughing), 20:00.

3rd Period-8, Belleville, Balisy 3 (Sexton, Sieloff), 3:51.

Penalties-No Penalties

Shots on Goal-Grand Rapids 11-17-6-34. Belleville 11-7-9-27.

Power Play Opportunities-Grand Rapids 1 / 5; Belleville 1 / 3.

Goalies-Grand Rapids, Sateri 2-4-0 (27 shots-22 saves). Belleville, McKenna 3-3-0 (34 shots-31 saves).

A-2,457

Referees-Mike Dietrich (15), Guillaume Labonte (35).
Linesmen-Nick Borg (67), Cory Piche (22).

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

He has the absolute worst +/- in the entire AHL, and it's not worth discussing?

Lol you're right! Everything is fine! We're the best team ever!

+/- is a useless stat.

 

[TheMule93]

+/- is a useless stat.

shreds of truth, but hyperbolic.

 

[RedWingzz]

+/- is a useless stat.

Agreed. Well, not entirely. +/- is a useless individual stat, and usually is indicative of team play.

Regardless, -9 is ugly. Based on it being a team stat, Zadina is dead last out of all Griffins in +/-. That's not good. I'm expecting a ton from Zadina, so I am not happy with a statline of 7GP 2G 2A 4PTS -9. I want him to become a star, and this is underwhelming. I'm not saying "Zadina is a bust", I'm saying "Zadina was been underwhelming, and maybe we need to lower our expectations a bit."

While I admit my criticism may be premature, I do feel like we need to at least question his play a bit.

 

[Filppula]

Zadina has no points and is -3 through 2 periods tonight.

Time to panic? I haven't watched any GR this year, but his stats are underwhelming. Maybe he's just not as good as we all thought? I am by no means writing him off, but I think I have to lower my expectations of a Kucherov 2.0, 40+ goal potential sniper. I am praying he's not just another "undersized 2nd line scorer". We have had too many of these recently.

EDIT: He is now -4 tonight, and an AHL WORST -9 on the season. This is not good at all. Can they send him back to junior? It's kinda sad that he is struggling this much in the AHL.

It certainly hasn't been an ideal start, but we need to acknowledge that GR are off to a dreadful start and IMO the new coach is a dud, and won't last long.

We all would've liked to see more production out of the gate, but lets just be patient. I love tracking these kids and boy do we need Zadina to pan out, but we won't know anything really until at the very least the halfway point of the season. Just give him more time to figure it out. If he's still really struggling later in the season, then lets re-asses.

 

[Pavels Dog]

As I said, I'm not writing him off. I still have high hopes. It is definitely alarming, and at least worth discussing though. He was "supposed" to make our NHL team, and now he is terrible in the AHL. I know he's young, and let's hope this is just an experience thing, and that he is realizing the jump from junior to pro hockey is difficult.

In hindsight though, he should be playing in Halifax.

He wasn't supposed to make the team at all, very few players are ever "supposed" to make the NHL right out of the draft. Look at what a highly hyped, d+2 player like Tolvanen is doing in the AHL. Martin Necas has 0 points in 4 AHL games so far and is also in his d+2. Domination should not be the expectation for 18-19 year olds.
Zadina in his d+1, transitioning into a pretty difficult pro league on a team that hasn't been doing well. His production is decent, his +/- is bad but you make too much of a stat like that for a scoring winger. It's hard to know if AHL is better for him than staying in juniors another year, but it's way too early to make a conclusion.

 

[TCNorthstars]

Zadina has no points and is -3 through 2 periods tonight.

Time to panic? I haven't watched any GR this year, but his stats are underwhelming. Maybe he's just not as good as we all thought? I am by no means writing him off, but I think I have to lower my expectations of a Kucherov 2.0, 40+ goal potential sniper. I am praying he's not just another "undersized 2nd line scorer". We have had too many of these recently.

EDIT: He is now -4 tonight, and an AHL WORST -9 on the season. This is not good at all. Can they send him back to junior? It's kinda sad that he is struggling this much in the AHL.

Definitely NOT time to panic. Let’s have a little patience here.

 

[raymond23]

My instinct is to panic lol, but I'm going to give him the first few months here to settle in.

 

[Ezekial]

He's playing in the AHL in his D+1 and is over .5 ppg while looking a little shaky. Of course I'm not panicking.

Shit man, information may be too available to people at this point.

 

[raymond23]

Their GAA has gotta be out of this world right now.

 

[TheMule93]

He's playing in the AHL in his D+1 and is over .5 ppg while looking a little shaky. Of course I'm not panicking.

**** man, information may be too available to people at this point.

I don't care what his stats are im actually watching him and am completely unimpressed