Value of: Grabner to the Blues
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If NYR are out of contention around the trade deadline, I would guess a pick in the 2-4 range depending on how well he's performing and what the market looks like. Otherwise, I don't really see anything that would make sense in a swap of roster players unless there was some solid prospect included that NYR couldn't turn down. He an important piece to the team with his speed and defense. Goals are gravy on top of all that stuff.
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2nd line might be asking a bit much of Grabner, but he can definitely fill in in a pinch. Maybe 2018 2nd + checking winger prospect (someone in the mold of Jesper Fast)?
If the Blues were giving up a young, winger prospect in the mold of Jesper Fast...why are they including a second as well? We’re talking about Grabner, right?
He is available IMO right now, since that would increase production being received and the price paid.
Like everyone else, we want picks and prospects, the more blue chip, the better.
Competition expected to drive up price, your $ as good as anyone else.
The issue is we expect a 1st as a base, but we understand you don't have a 1st this year.
Not looking so much for existing players, but would consider with an open mind.
What do you have...
While he is not all dimensional in his game, his speed, scoring, and ridiculously low cap hit COMMAND a 1st at min, and competition will drive this up slightly.
There was talk about EDM might be buyers at
Strome + 2018 2nd
for
Grabner + NYR 4th and 7th
What does St. Lou have available that tops that?
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Not trying to derail you here, but why do the Rangers want Strome?
Dude is a bust.
STL should easily be able to top that. Rangers need NHL ready (for next season) wing and LHD prospect depth. Draft picks always good too. Really don't want to lose Grabner though. Would need a good offer.
Calad
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OP was interested in gauging value. A (likely very late) 2nd round pick + a prospect that doesn't have top 6 upside for a player that will help them compete now isn't an outlandish request, is it?
Agree we want better than Strome, but it shows the market.
Also, Strome might be salvageable, the same way Benoit Allaire is working on reclamation project Pavlec.
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I just hope if Grabner is on the table the Rangers are getting more than just a second. He's gonna score 25 plus goals (with no pp time) again at basically no cap hit whatsoever and also plays a responsible two way game/strong pk guy.
If teams are gonna offer a very low prospect and a low pick like third or 4th rounder its a no brainer to keep him
If teams are gonna offer a very low prospect and a low pick like third or 4th rounder its a no brainer to keep him
If the blues were offering up those prospects I feel like they can do better than Grabner.
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Grabner is on pace for another 25+ goal scoring season on a dirt cheap cap hit.
A weapon short handed as his separation speed is a notch behind a guy like McDavid.
You want that kind of player, be prepared to pay an above normal price for it.
A weapon short handed as his separation speed is a notch behind a guy like McDavid.
You want that kind of player, be prepared to pay an above normal price for it.
Before he joined the rangers he was averaging 10-20 goals a year for about 5 years. He's already 30 so his legs don't have much time left and as soon as he loses his legs he loses his career. He's definitely not worth a first or a good prospect.
He absolutely is to contenders that need scoring + PK.
Nobody gives a damn what he was producing “years ago”. Nor how his legs will hold up in the future.
This is a what have you done for me now league, and right now, Grabner is a 25+ goal scoring veteran who’s a beast on the PK. And he’s affordable.
1st or [mod].
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Grabner is a tough one to get a fair trade out of. He definitely isn't a top 6 winger, but hes a pretty elite bottom 6 guy. Wont' make his linemates better in the slightest but hes an excellent PKer who is the master of broken plays and springing himself on a breakaway. He isn't going to be a guy at the top of any teams prime targets to trade for, but if the Rangers are making him available he is also the type of guy who can find a spot on pretty much every team out there which would drive up his eventual return.
Might return a late first if there is a bidding war, could definitely see it if Rangers add a minor sweetener with a mid/late pick. Since the Rangers are likely to be fighting for a playoff spot I think a more likely return is a cost controlled, younger bottom 6 who would be a small downgrade in the present but they would hope has more(or equal) potential down the line.
Might return a late first if there is a bidding war, could definitely see it if Rangers add a minor sweetener with a mid/late pick. Since the Rangers are likely to be fighting for a playoff spot I think a more likely return is a cost controlled, younger bottom 6 who would be a small downgrade in the present but they would hope has more(or equal) potential down the line.
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He's an elite bottom six player. I'll take a second and a good prospect or a first.
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