Gomez offered tryout contract by Devils

[Wingman77]

Arnott and Nieds both held out until late November that year - should be noted both shared the same agent

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/20/sports/hockey-arnott-and-niedermayer-ending-holdouts.html

 

[Bleedred]

Claude was a favorite of mine. He hadn't been doing that great in 93, 94, 95 but in March 95 he signed a fax copy of a contract for $5 + M. Then he scored 13 goals in 20 playoff games some were winners and won the MVP. After the season he called Lou while he was on vacation and said the faxed contract he signed wasn't valid. Lou took him to arbitration and Claude lost. Lou then traded him to the Isles for Steve Thomas and on the same day the Isles traded Claude to the Avs. Claude was better off , Devils didn't make the playoffs in 96.

I think we would have made the playoffs with Claude that year. **** the dead stump of Steve Thomas. That trade blew.

If I remember correctly Lou didn't open the contract negotions with Nieds soon enough in Nieds opinion and then Lou tried to low ball Nieds in Nieds opinion. (All negotiations start out low that's why they call it negotiations) So Nieds held out until the last moment to resign. Nieds wasn't happy with Lou and the Devils. The next contract he left to play with his brother. You know the rest.

I remember him holding out at least two times. It wasn't just in 2000 with Arnott, he held out for a while in 98 too. Only two years before that.

I thought DEVILSEBO was referring to when Niedermayer actually left in 2005.

 

[CKPLAYA]

I think we would have made the playoffs with Claude that year. **** the dead stump of Steve Thomas. That trade blew.

I remember him holding out at least two times. It wasn't just in 2000 with Arnott, he held out for a while in 98 too. Only two years before that.

I thought DEVILSEBO was referring to when Niedermayer actually left in 2005.

There was a ton of animosity between Nieds camp and Lou. Every negotiation was a battle. In the end, once he signed the one year deal from arbitration he was never coming back. Walking through the overpass from Giants stadium the night he signed it you knew he was done. The best yet was the posturing he did when he went UFA. He laid the wood right back to Lou. He was never coming back. I'll say this, I do think Lou started to get the hint from how bad that went and how foolish he looked sitting in a hotel room waiting for the call that never came.

 

[NJDevs26]

And yet Nieds left for reasons other than money so it doesn't exactly fit the narrative. If he was so upset over Lou nickel and diming him in the late '90's then why did he not take the best offer when he actually got to FA?

We're getting off track again though, this is the Gomez thread.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

And on that note, the thing about Lou is he was absolutely right in playing hardball with Gomez. Everyone thought he'd be a superstar once he left the Devils' system (the one that led the league in goals scored...lol), as is still customary. But Lou knew he wasn't dealing with a guy who deserved the kind of money he was looking for, especially considering he was coming off that 60-point season and wasn't exactly known for his conditioning or work ethic.

 

[JimEIV]

And yet Nieds left for reasons other than money so it doesn't exactly fit the narrative. If he was so upset over Lou nickel and diming him in the late '90's then why did he not take the best offer when he actually got to FA?

We're getting off track again though, this is the Gomez thread.

He got his brother about an extra 4 million dollars over 4 years...Rob was a 4th liner in Anaheim and he got 4 years 8 Million...As a 4th liner. -- EDIT: both of those contracts Scott's and Rob's were worked out simultaneously

A 4th liner in a league that had a 39 Million dollar salary cap and league average salary of 1.4 Million.

While NJ was offering 7.8 Million (league MAX) and Scott took slightly less than 7 ($6.75 for 4 years 27 million total), the difference was made to up Rob.

7.8 * 4 = 31.2 --- 6.75 * 4 = 27 Difference = 4.2 --- A 4th liner that should've been making 800K to 1M gets 2 million for 4 years. +4

The numbers fit a little too perfectly don't they?

Scott Left no money on the table to go to Anaheim that was always a fallacy.

 

[devilsblood]

I always thought Nied's felt restrained playing in our system and was always looking to play a more open game.

 

[Bleedred]

If Gomer looks competent, sign him and start purging the turds.

Sign Gomez, waive Space Junk Bernier, make Gionta the extra forward, never call up Tostitos or Janssen again. Sign me up for that please. I have little faith that Gionta won't be an every nighter, but I'm still living on a prayer that Space Junk is launched into orbit.

 

[NC107*]

Gionta is Pete's favorite and Janssen is Lou's favorite we will see both on the ice with Gionta getting most of the ice time. Neither belongs on the team. I hope Gomez makes the team.

 

[PercivalGraves]

Gomez still has pretty good play-making skills i am sure lou will sign one of the best devils of my childhood .

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Gomez still has pretty good play-making skills i am sure lou will sign one of the best devils of my childhood .

he has 32 assists the last 3 years. total.

 

[Brodeur]

he has 32 assists the last 3 years. total.

I actually thought Gomez was decent for the Sharks in 2012-13. He was basically a PP specialist on their 2nd unit and picked up 8 PP assists in 39 games (just for comparison, Elias had 9 PP assists in 48 games that season). Gomez was their de facto 4th line center, so he had some stonehanded wingers most of the time at even strength; I wouldn't hold that against him.

I still don't see a spot for him on the team, but I'd be happy if he got to dress in one preseason game for old time's sake.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I actually thought Gomez was decent for the Sharks in 2012-13. He was basically a PP specialist on their 2nd unit and picked up 8 PP assists in 39 games (just for comparison, Elias had 9 PP assists in 48 games that season). Gomez was their de facto 4th line center, so he had some stonehanded wingers most of the time at even strength; I wouldn't hold that against him.

I still don't see a spot for him on the team, but I'd be happy if he got to dress in one preseason game for old time's sake.

people do it all the time on here with Josefson.