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GloryDaze4877 said:
Every workplace in America is a soap opera.

Sweeney would be gone for sure and the Gorton domino effect would be greater than you think.
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I haven't found that to be true.

If all of that doomsday scenario happens, then we are talking about many draft picks and some well qualified replacements, correct?

The Bruins have themselves covered if they do decide Jeff Gorton is the best guy for the job in regards to compensation. They've got the trigger finger on Edmontons second pick. They could in fact end up ahead in terms of draft picks.

I just think the fear mongering from both sides has gotten a little out of hand. No Don Sweeney doesn't mean the front office is a boys club with no regard for anything but helping out old friends. No Jeff Gorton, Paul Fenton, or anyone else means that Cam and friends all take their ball and go home.

I get the feeling from the people I've spoken with it will be Don Sweeney, but it isn't as done of a deal that a lot of media and fans have been talking about. I don't connect directly with the front office or anyone like that, that's just in talking to people that do. Jeff Gorton is the elephant in the room and if they go with him for whatever reason, that doesn't change the fact that the only way Neely ever leaves the Bruins is sickness or death.
 
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Dom - OHL said:
I actually don't think Sweeney will be gone if he's not named GM. And for the record, I believe he will be named GM.

But "IF" not, he'll remain assistant GM/ P-Bruins GM with the added title of Director of Player Personnel and vice president of hockey ops where he gets to work even closer with Neely and be GM X's boss.

Not possible? Never happened before?

Look no further then Craig Heisinger of the Winnipeg Jets. Senior Vice President, Assistant GM, Director of Player Personnel and Manager of their AHL affiliate.
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If Jacobs and Harry *were* to trump Cam does he just say what the heck? He never played like that.
 
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Dom - OHL said:
I actually don't think Sweeney will be gone if he's not named GM. And for the record, I believe he will be named GM.

But "IF" not, he'll remain assistant GM/ P-Bruins GM with the added title of Director of Player Personnel and vice president of hockey ops where he gets to work even closer with Neely and be GM X's boss.

Not possible? Never happened before?

Look no further then Craig Heisinger of the Winnipeg Jets. Senior Vice President, Assistant GM, Director of Player Personnel and Manager of their AHL affiliate.
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Dom, I think it's possible.

It's actually probable that he stays...for a year. However, Sweeney is well thought of around the league, has already had an interview for a GM spot outside the B's, and you just handed the job he wanted to a relatively young Jeff Gorton. No way he's in Boston for any amount of time after that.

Still hoping he's the guy and this is a moot point.
 
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If Jacobs and Harry *were* to trump Cam does he just say what the heck? He never played like that.
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That's just it Dan (we've talked about this when I told you in hinted terms "what role has Sinden played in all this?")

Sinden isn't there to trump anyone. There's obviously some sort of small disagreement but Sinden will play the role of mediator more then anything. Not making the decision.

Do I think Neely walks if Gorton is hired? I doubt it. You've said it yourself a few times in these threads - the relationship between Neely and Sinden - how Neely picks Sinden's brain ect. If true, (and I believe it is) then how could Neely possibly be upset enough to walk because of the position the guy who he routinely picks his brain for info sides with?
 
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we can all agree then its Sweeney or Gorton, with Sweeney the favorite. I think they just want to do their do diligence and at least try to interview Gorton
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They should interview as many candidates as possible. Hear new ideas, fresh perspectives, all that.

If Neely had named Sweeney a couple days after Chiarelli was canned everybody would be screaming "Why weren't more people interviewed"

The process of talent evaluation for free agency and the draft are continuing from the sounds of it, talk to Gorton and then make the decision.

Only thing of late that has scared me is zombie Sinden being unearthed and brought back north, he should be sent home to Florida and never heard from again.
 
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I haven't found that to be true.

If all of that doomsday scenario happens, then we are talking about many draft picks and some well qualified replacements, correct?

The Bruins have themselves covered if they do decide Jeff Gorton is the best guy for the job in regards to compensation. They've got the trigger finger on Edmontons second pick. They could in fact end up ahead in terms of draft picks.

I just think the fear mongering from both sides has gotten a little out of hand. No Don Sweeney doesn't mean the front office is a boys club with no regard for anything but helping out old friends. No Jeff Gorton, Paul Fenton, or anyone else means that Cam and friends all take their ball and go home.

I get the feeling from the people I've spoken with it will be Don Sweeney, but it isn't as done of a deal that a lot of media and fans have been talking about. I don't connect directly with the front office or anyone like that, that's just in talking to people that do. Jeff Gorton is the elephant in the room and if they go with him for whatever reason, that doesn't change the fact that the only way Neely ever leaves the Bruins is sickness or death.
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Chia was there before Neely, not his call.

JJ/CJ hires Neely and says you are our guy.

Neely gets first opportunity to put his mark on team, selects Sweeney.

JJ/CJ says, sorry Cam, we want Gorton and they bring in Sinden to facilitate it.

Yeah...that's probably going to sit real well with Neely.
 
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They should interview as many candidates as possible. Hear new ideas, fresh perspectives, all that.

If Neely had named Sweeney a couple days after Chiarelli was canned everybody would be screaming "Why weren't more people interviewed"

The process of talent evaluation for free agency and the draft are continuing from the sounds of it, talk to Gorton and then make the decision.

Only thing of late that has scared me is zombie Sinden being unearthed and brought back north, he should be sent home to Florida and never heard from again.
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Don't think for one second Sinden's voice wasn't heard when they were discussing firing Chiarelli.
 
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No danger of us ever getting a pick as compensation for Sweeney as no other team than the Bruins is considering him for the job.
 

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GloryDaze4877 said:
Chia was there before Neely, not his call.

JJ/CJ hires Neely and says you are our guy.

Neely gets first opportunity to put his mark on team, selects Sweeney.

JJ/CJ says, sorry Cam, we want Gorton and they bring in Sinden to facilitate it.

Yeah...that's probably going to sit real well with Neely.
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You could very well be right, but that's an assumption. You're assuming the worst case scenario and pushing it as fact. That's not any better than the people who claim promoting Don Sweeney will create a "boys club" who are more interested. It's just assumption based fear mongering to make their opinion look like the right one.

Cam Neely more than maybe anyone in the world wants what's best for the Bruins, that's a fact. Him stomping his feet and leaving because his friend doesn't get a promotion should not be assumed as fact in any spectrum.

It's getting too political for me "If Romney gets elected, he's going to ban all birth control!" "Obama is a socialist that's going to tax all the rich people out of the country!" Time to sit on the sidelines until actual news comes out.
 
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You could very well be right, but that's an assumption. You're assuming the worst case scenario and pushing it as fact. That's not any better than the people who claim promoting Don Sweeney will create a "boys club" who are more interested. It's just assumption based fear mongering to make their opinion look like the right one.

Cam Neely more than maybe anyone in the world wants what's best for the Bruins, that's a fact. Him stomping his feet and leaving because his friend doesn't get a promotion should not be assumed as fact in any spectrum.

It's getting too political for me "If Romney gets elected, he's going to ban all birth control!" "Obama is a socialist that's going to tax all the rich people out of the country!" Time to sit on the sidelines until actual news comes out.
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Fear Mongering?

Exaggerate much?

We are talking about naming a GM, not world domination :laugh: Regardless of who gets named GM, my life is the same.

Obviously all of this is speculation and opinion, mine and yours. In my nearly 35 years in the workplace I have been employed by good companies and bad, but in both I have found that for the most part people are out for themselves as much as they can be within the confines of being a "team player". Most people take slights (perceived or real) badly and don't let them go. That's what my opinion is based on. Maybe Neely and Co are better than that? I hope so.
 
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Dom - OHL said:
I actually don't think Sweeney will be gone if he's not named GM. And for the record, I believe he will be named GM.

But "IF" not, he'll remain assistant GM/ P-Bruins GM with the added title of Director of Player Personnel and vice president of hockey ops where he gets to work even closer with Neely and be GM X's boss.

Not possible? Never happened before?

Look no further then Craig Heisinger of the Winnipeg Jets. Senior Vice President, Assistant GM, Director of Player Personnel and Manager of their AHL affiliate.
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I can't see Gorton leaving New York, where he goes from being an AGM with ONE hands off boss in Sather, coming to Boston as GM with TWO hands-on bosses in Neely and Sweeney.

He'd have to be out of his mind.
 
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GloryDaze4877 said:
According to my NHL app...Sweeney named GM.

Boom!

This whole thing has been a little weird. Wonder what happened?
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You always look both internally and externally even if you know the person you want is internal. The external candidate may impress you enough that you hire them for another role in your organization.

Will be interesting to see who is named AGM.
 
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