GDT: GM 16 | Vancouver Canucks vs. New York Islanders | Familiar Faces, I’ll Tell You That For Free | Wed. Nov 15th, 7:00PM PST | SPAC

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Last time these two teams met, Beauvillier had the last laugh:



- Carson Soucy was injured against Montreal and is questionable
- Demko expected to start

Vancouver Canucks’ Starting Lineup (unconfirmed)

Kuzmenko - Pettersson - Mikheyev
Boeser - Miller - Di Giuseppe
Joshua - Suter - Garland
Beauvillier - Blueger - Lafferty

Hughes - Hronek
Soucy - Myers
Cole - Juulsen

Demko

More to come.
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[alternate]

Bo vs JTM centre ice after the first puck drop. Better happen.

 

[RobertKron]

Could we throw a date in the PGTs if we're doing them well in advance like this? I wasn't paying attention, thought it was a GDT and I was about to get Mikey Gillis to fire up the powerpoint and make another scheduling difficulty presentation.

 

[kylek023]

I'm predicting an equal amount of booing and cheering for Bo

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Horvat will either have an uneventful game and finish a -2.

Or will score a hattrick.

 

[RobertKron]

Horvat will either have an uneventful game and finish a -2.

Or will score a hattrick.

He's going into the stands to knock fin down a peg.

 

[MS]

It's weird what the masses latch onto here as 'things' and Horvat is going to get booed harder than Mark Messier because of a small, kinda dumb comment he made after he left.

 

[m9]

It's weird what the masses latch onto here as 'things' and Horvat is going to get booed harder than Mark Messier because of a small, kinda dumb comment he made after he left.

I hope he doesn't get booed other than by the fringe idiots. Can't imagine our fanbase is dumb enough to boo over basically nothing, but we'll see.

 

[MS]

I hope he doesn't booed in other than by the fringe idiots. Can't imagine our fanbase is dumb enough to boo over basically nothing, but we'll see.

This is the fanbase that had protests to get Mike Gillis fired because he won two lopsided trades involving goalies.

The reaction to those comments from Horvat was absurd and he's going to get booed every time he touches the puck, I'd expect.

 

[alternate]

I hope he gets booed. Bad guys to root against make sports more fun.

In a couple years we can acknowledge all the great stuff he did off the ice, but right now he's the second biggest reason we've stunk for a decade and threw trash at the fans on the way out (don't fact @ me bro).

Rabble rabble rabble!!

 

[God]

I am hoping we get more tidbits of Horvat's captaincy in the post-game reports. A few weeks ago, some media guy said something along the lines of JTM's struggles last year were due to him feeling like he had to do everything himself, and with the right accountability structure in place with Tocchet (and maybe Hughes as captain), that pressure isn't really on him anymore.

It wouldn't surprise me if Horvat, like every other ruined young player we had over the past decade, also developed into a crappy pro/leader under the tutelage of people like Sutter or Green or whatever.

 

[Ernie]

I am hoping we get more tidbits of Horvat's captaincy in the post-game reports. A few weeks ago, some media guy said something along the lines of JTM's struggles last year were due to him feeling like he had to do everything himself, and with the right accountability structure in place with Tocchet (and maybe Hughes as captain), that pressure isn't really on him anymore.

It wouldn't surprise me if Horvat, like every other ruined young player we had over the past decade, also developed into a crappy pro/leader under the tutelage of people like Sutter or Green or whatever.

Tocchet has referred to Miller as the team's emotional leader and commented that it is a quiet locker room. I think that Horvat just didn't have the guts to push his teammates.

Perhaps this isn't fair but him having a career season while the team spiralled around him kind of demonstrated his role with the team. There were just so many meltdowns with him as captain. Good player, but not a guy who can rally the troops. And signing that contract with a declining team shows me he's either not very smart or way too comfortable with losing.

I don't really blame the player though and he definitely shouldn't be booed. He was miscast from the beginning as a two way forward and a leader when he was actually a offensive forward.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Could we throw a date in the PGTs if we're doing them well in advance like this? I wasn't paying attention, thought it was a GDT and I was about to get Mikey Gillis to fire up the powerpoint and make another scheduling difficulty presentation.

Someone ninja edited that in for you. My bad.

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My title is also meant in jest. I hope the Canucks’ crowd doesn’t boo Horvat for his (admittedly stupid) comment, but instead respectfully acknowledges that he gave us his best during one of - if not the - worst periods in franchise history.

 

[Vector]

Someone ninja edited that in for you. My bad.

I wonder which insane mod did that?

 

[MS]

I am hoping we get more tidbits of Horvat's captaincy in the post-game reports. A few weeks ago, some media guy said something along the lines of JTM's struggles last year were due to him feeling like he had to do everything himself, and with the right accountability structure in place with Tocchet (and maybe Hughes as captain), that pressure isn't really on him anymore.

It wouldn't surprise me if Horvat, like every other ruined young player we had over the past decade, also developed into a crappy pro/leader under the tutelage of people like Sutter or Green or whatever.

Of course that happened. Basically every player that came into this organization between 2014 and 2021 developed sub-optimally.

The bits we can see as fans are likely just the tip of the iceberg, but how he was handled circa 2015-2017 when you had Willie criticizing him for scoring and the organization basically setting him up to fail and giving Sutter the soft scoring minutes was insane. And then - boom - he's captain at age 23 with nobody there to support him at all.

 

[m9]

This is the fanbase that had protests to get Mike Gillis fired because he won two lopsided trades involving goalies.

The reaction to those comments from Horvat was absurd and he's going to get booed every time he touches the puck, I'd expect.

My thought is that the majority of the fans will still be respectful to a long-serving captain. But.. maybe it's more hope than anything.

 

[MS]

My thought is that the majority of the fans will still be respectful to a long-serving captain. But.. maybe it's more hope than anything.

That might be the case, but 5000 fans booing every touch of the puck will make a lot more noise than 13000 fans politely clapping the Thank You video and being silent otherwise.

Edit : I hope I'm wrong, for the record. It would be a really embarrassing look for the whole organization to have Horvat treated that way.

 

[Canuckle1970]

In the total context of the last 8 years, Horvat's positive/negative contribution to the team's fortunes is pfffft, compared to the Benning et al management group.

We've moved on and we're in a much happier state. Hope and expect the crowd to be classy to Bo on Wednesday night.

 

[CherryToke]

The best thing the fans can do is cheer on the Canucks harder than Bo ever saw during his tenure and pretend that Bo doesn't exist. No cheering or booing for him. He was a nothing player.

 

[thekernel]

I'd hate to see us play the slump-busters, but it's a weird situation for us coming off a road b2b into another b2b. Isles have a tough road trip this week, if you ignore quality of opponent. They are in Alberta tonight, then they have a b2b of their own in the PNW before heading back to Alberta again on Saturday. Hopefully we can catch them in a lull and we don't try to conserve too much of our own energy.

As far as Horvat goes, I refuse to speculate on closed-door affairs and so have nothing to say about his leadership abilities there. What I do know is that he played his bag off for us, and never once complained about his revolving door of ass linemates. He served his duties admirably. He gave us some memorable moments. And fetched us one hell of a trade package too...



Put some respect on this man

 

[Jimnastic]

I hope he gets booed. Bad guys to root against make sports more fun.

In a couple years we can acknowledge all the great stuff he did off the ice, but right now he's the second biggest reason we've stunk for a decade and threw trash at the fans on the way out (don't fact @ me bro).

Rabble rabble rabble!!

Cannot think of a post I disagree more with.

 

[LemonSauceD]

All the Twitter fingers and Instagram troll soldiers will be booing him and it’s just disgraceful.

I’ll be going to the game and will make sure he gets his flowers from my section.

 

[CanucksSayEh]

Bo was better in that Blues series than Kesler vs Nashville.

Nucks were supposed to win in 2011, vs STL they were the underdogs.

 

[Ernie]

Bo was better in that Blues series than Kesler vs Nashville.

Nucks were supposed to win in 2011, vs STL they were the underdogs.

well this is a take.

Kesler was an absolute two-way monster, extremely competitive, very fast and physical, elite penalty killer. Horvat is pretty soft on defense, offensively skilled but doesn't bring much else. The myth of Horvat exceeded the reality in every way when he was a Canuck.

 

[HighAndTight]

well this is a take.

Okay, I didn't wanna be the first.