Post-Game Talk: [GM 13] Canucks defeat Senators | 6-4 | Horvat (2), Mikheyev, OEL, Studnicka, & Pettersson

[Nucker101]

I mean, we have that exact player, in Lockwood. And i'm a lot happier with Joshua in that role. But i still think we can do a lot better than Joshua. There are better 4th liners out there than him, who manage to generate something in those limited minutes. Rather than just being content to "saw off" the results on the corsi tables.

Yeah I get that but like you said, having a guy who doesn’t really help or hurt you while making peanuts is technically a win in a hard cap league.

 

[VanJack]

What continues to bother me is how some Canuck wingers are so weak along the wall. They arrive late and then simply get outmuscled.

That second Sens goal by Hamonic was the direct result of Joshua losing a back battle and the puck crossing the entire rink. I mean if your fourth liners can't win a puck battle and transition the puck of your own zone, then what good are they? On the offensive side, they'll be lucky to score a goal month.

I agree with other posters.....this is simply a 'flawed' roster and there are no easy fixes. I see Mike Reilly of Bruins is on waivers. He'd make an interesting addition to the Canucks, but makes far too much money for them to even consider it.

 

[credulous]

Yeah I get that but like you said, having a guy who doesn’t really help or hurt you while making peanuts is technically a win in a hard cap league.

i think this is outdated thinking. good teams have 4th lines that look like the 3rd or even 2nd lines of the past. if you're not getting 20-30 points from your 4th liners you're probably falling behind

 

[Nucker101]

i think this is outdated thinking. good teams have 4th lines that look like the 3rd or even 2nd lines of the past. if you're not getting 20-30 points from your 4th liners you're probably falling behind

It’s not outdated at all.

Less than 20 points is not acceptable unless the line is getting shutdown usage which it isn’t. So far the 4th line has produced 5 goals between the 4 of them(Studnicka replacing Lazar after injury) through 13 games which puts them on that 20-30 point pace you just mentioned. Being fine with that production at their cap hits/roles isn’t outdated.

 

[credulous]

It’s not outdated at all.

Less than 20 points is not acceptable unless the line is getting shutdown usage which it isn’t. So far the 4th line has produced 5 goals between the 4 of them(Studnicka replacing Lazar after injury) through 13 games which puts them on that 20-30 point pace you just mentioned. Being fine with that production at their cap hits/roles isn’t outdated.

i wasn't saying the canucks 4th line is outdated (altho i think aman is probably not an nhl player based on his play so far) but that the idea that you just need a 4th line that can fill minutes without any expectation of production is outdated

 

[Nucker101]

i wasn't saying the canucks 4th line is outdated (altho i think aman is probably not an nhl player based on his play so far) but that the idea that you just need a 4th line that can fill minutes without any expectation of production is outdated

Well that’s just semantics we’re arguing then while actually agreeing on everything ense. Treading water to me is putting up 20+ points which you agree with.