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    U17 5-nation-tournament in Piestany (15.08 - 19.08.2018)

    Game #1 (15.08.2018):

    Germany vs. Slovakia 7-5 (3-0 / 3-3 / 1-2)
    1-0 Florian Elias (1) [Lukas Reichel (1)]
    2-0 Lukas Reichel (1) [Maksymilian Szuber (1), Tim Stützle (1)]
    3-0 Fabian Herrmann (1) [Ludwig Danzer (1), Justin Volek (1)]

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    3-1 Jakub Simko [Samuel Krajc] - PP1
    3-2 Matej Kaslík [Marco Ejem] - PP1
    4-2 Lukas Reichel (2) [Korbinian Geibel (1)]
    4-3 Samuel Krajc [Maxim Mastic, Jakub Simko] - PP2
    5-3 Lukas Reichel (3) [Tim Stützle (2), Maximilian Menner (1)]
    6-3 Tim Stützle (1) [Lukas Reichel (2), Florian Elias (1)]
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    6-4 Samuel Krajc [Maxim Mastic, Mario Jamrich]
    6-5 Jakub Kolenic [Dominik Hajas, Matej Kaslík]
    7-5 Maximilian Menner (1) [Florian Elias (2), Maksymilian Szuber (2)] - SH1 - EN


    GK:
    Arno Tiefensee - 34/39 Saves

    Simon Latkóczy - 23/29 Saves

    PP:

    GER 0-3
    SVK 3-7


    *There are definitely some mistakes as far as the assists are concerned. Hopefully a full replay of the game will be available on youtube, so I can double check. For example Stützle definitely had an assist on the empty net goal at the end.


    Game #2 (16.08.2018):

    Germany vs. Switzerland 3-1 (3-0 / 0-0 / 0-1)

    1-0 Oleg Leon Porunow (1) [Lukas Reichel (3), Tim Stützle (3)]
    2-0 Lukas Reichel (4) [Florian Elias (3), Maximilian Menner (2)] - PP1
    3-0 Florian Elias (2) [Tim Stützle (4), Lukas Reichel (4)]

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Marinus Schunda saves Penalty Shot
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    3-1 Joel Bieri

    GK:
    Marinus Schunda - 27/28 Saves

    Lucas Rötheli - 22/25 Saves

    PP:
    GER 1-7
    SUI 0-4


    Game #3 (17.08.2018):
    Germany vs. Czech Republic 0-1 (0-0 / 0-1 / 0-0)

    No Goals Scored
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    0-1 Ondrej Baláz [Marek Bláha, Sebastian Malát]
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    No Goals Scored

    GK:
    Niklas Lunemann - 14/15 Saves
    Jan Bednár - 21/21 Saves

    PP:
    GER 0-2
    CZE 0-2


    Game #4 (18.08.2018):

    Germany vs. USA 7-6 OT (3-1 / 0-3 / 3-2 / 1-0)
    1-0 Justin Volek (1) [Jussi Petersen (1)]
    1-1 Mackie Samoskevich
    2-1 Justin Volek (2) [Fabian Herrmann (1), Daniel Schwaiger (1)] - PP1
    3-1 Tim Stützle (2) [Lukas Reichel (5), Florian Elias (4)]
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    3-2 Dane Montgomery [Jack Williams, Jake Ratzlaff] - PP1
    3-3 Blake Biondi [Ben Schoen, Cross Hanas]
    3-4 Daniyla Dzhaniyev [Blake Biondi]
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    3-5 Jack Williams [David Ma, Dane Montgomery]
    4-5 Justin Volek (3)
    4-6 Blake Biondi [Mackie Samoskevich, Cross Hanas]
    5-6 Fabian Herrmann (2) [Justin Volek (2), Jussi Petersen (2)]
    6-6 Florian Elias (3) [Lukas Reichel (6), Tim Stützle (5)] - PP1
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    7-6 Lukas Reichel (5)

    GK:
    Arno Tiefensee - 31/37 Saves
    Gavin Fitzpatrick - 11/18 Saves

    PP:
    GER 2-10
    USA 1-5

     
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    U16 4-nation-tournament in Zell am See (22.08 - 24.08.2018)

    Game #1 (22.08.2018):

    Germany vs. Switzerland 2-3 (0-0 / 1-1 / 1-2)

    No Goals Scored´
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    1-0 Sebastian Cimmerman (1) [Julian Elsberger (1), Felix Ribnitzky (1)]
    1-1 Paul Daneyrole [Luca Schelldorfer, Maximilian Streule]
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    2-1 Haakon Hänelt (1) [Konstantin Bongers (1), Marius Winkelmann (1)]
    2-2 Jeremy Jabola [Brian Zanetti, Louis Robin] - PP1
    2-3 Livio Azevedo [Tim Kosik] - PP1


    GK:
    Luca Ganz - 35/38 Saves

    Niels Riesen - 19/21 Saves

    PP:
    GER 0-3
    SUI 2-9


    Game #2 (23.08.2018):

    Germany vs. Latvia 3-5 (1-1 / 2-2 / 0-2)

    1:0 Roman Zap (1) [Konstantin Bongers (2), Maxim Rausch (1)]
    1:1 Patriks Klemka [Gustavs Stikans, Peteris Purmalis] - PP1
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    1:2 Rinalds Vagals [Anri Ravinskis]
    2:2 Kevin Niedenz (1)
    2:3 Krisjanis Salaks [Akims Saburovs, Rinalds Vagals]
    3-3 Philip Feist (1) [Markus Freis (1)] - SH1
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    3-4 Akims Saburovs [Rinalds Vagals]
    3-5 Arturs Karasa [Ralfs Cipruss] - PP1


    GK:
    Nikita Quapp - 46/51 Saves
    Linards Lipskis - 43/46 Saves


    PP:

    GER 0-7
    LAT 2-5


    Game #3 (24.08.2018):
    Germany vs. Austria 5-2 (2-0 /2 -2 / 1-0)

    1-0 Sebastian Cimmerman (2) [Philip Feist (1), Haakon Hänelt (1)]
    2-0 Sten Fischer (1) [Connor Korte (1), Thomas Heigl (1)]
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    3-0 Thomas Heigl (1) [Roman Zap (1), Sten Fischer (1)] - PP1
    4-0 Kevin Niedenz (2) [Sebastian Cimmerman (1), Markus Freis (2)]
    4-1 Elias Koller - PP1
    4-2 Moritz Lackner [Lukas Necesany, Nico Kramer]
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    5-2 Thomas Heigl (2)


    GK:
    Nikita Quapp / Luca Ganz - 29/31 Saves
    Thomas Pfarrmaier - 40/45 Saves

    PP:
    GER 1-4
    AUT 1-4
     
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    The roster for the U16 tournament:

    NoPosNameVornamegeb. amVerein
    1THGanzLuca21.04.2003ELZ JA Mannheim
    30THQuappNikita25.01.2003RB Hockey Akademie
    2VBidoulPhilipp22.05.2003ESV Kaufbeuren
    3VFreisMarkus07.06.2003KEC „Die Haie“
    4VKleinAdrian19.09.2003EV Weiden
    5VRauschMaxim18.02.2003Düsseldorfer EG
    6VRibnitzkyFelix08.06.2003Düsseldorfer EG
    7VSchmidtAlexander15.05.2003KEC „Die Haie“
    8VWinkelmannMarius03.05.2003RB Hockey Akademie
    9SBongersKonstantin03.01.2003Düsseldorfer EG
    10SCimmermanSebastian14.02.2003RB Hockey Akademie
    11SElsbergerJulian07.08.2003EV Landshut
    12SFeistPhilip04.08.2003RB Hockey Akademie
    13SFischerSten25.01.2003RB Hockey Akademie
    14SGorgenländerTim05.06.2003ELZ JA Mannheim
    15SHäneltHaakon01.06.2003RB Hockey Akademie
    16SHeiglThomas20.01.2003EC Bad Tölz
    17SHeimMaximilian22.10.2003Eisbären Juniors Berlin
    18SKorteConnor31.01.2003HC Davos
    19SNiedenzKevin02.04.2003Düsseldorfer EG
    20SSteinbergerLeon13.08.2003Eisbären Juniors Berlin
    21SZapRoman05.05.2003RB Hockey Akademie
     
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    Germany U17 - Slovakia
    Súťaže a štatistiky | 2018 5 U17 Nations Tournament | Slovakia U17 vs. Germany U17 | HockeySlovakia.sk - oficiálny web slovenského hokeja

    Outstanding performance by Lukas Reichel. Reichel was rightly chosen as the best german. With his equally good sidekicks Tim Stützle and Florian Elias he destroyed the Slovakian defense.

    The German defense was not always sure. One of the best defender, Maximilian Glötzl, was unknowingly hidden in the 4th defense - maybe a tactical consideration.
    Salzburg-Twins Maksymilian Szuber and Maximilian Menner scored with the outstanding first line, but otherwise with defects in the game. SH on low level by both.

    Goalie Arno Tiefensee did not convince - 87% Save Percentage.

    Lukas Reichel was voted to the best German player. Extremely good choice!
     
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    Swiss - Germany U17
    Súťaže a štatistiky | 2018 5 U17 Nations Tournament | Switzerland U17 vs. Germany U17 | HockeySlovakia.sk - oficiálny web slovenského hokeja

    The first line of Team Germany sets the course for victory. This line with Lukas Reichel, Tim Stützle and Florian Elias is outstanding.

    The German defense holds tight, but we will see if the performance is enough for the Czechs. The defenders Maximilian Menner, Daniel Schwaiger and Maksymilian Szuber are highly overrated. The best German defender in this Game, Maximilian Glötzl, continued in the 4th defense.

    Goalie Marinus Schunda with a very good performance. He gave the team security (96% save percentage) and holds an penalty shot.

    Defender Daniel Schwaiger was voted best German player. He was the most surprised himself. We take the joke. We agreed that Florian Elias was the best player.
     
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    @Halfdan: I disagree somewhat about the defense. This is overall a mediocre crop of defensemen and I agree mostly on Menner and Schwaiger, but Szuber is solid. Nothing spectacular but solid. Tuchel and Pilu weren't too bad either. As far as Glötzl is concerned, he seems to have by far the highest ceiling, and shows some promise, but it's not like he has been amazing in theses games. And while I would imagine he would perform better given the chance to play on a block with the first line, I get that the coaches won't mess around with what works. Still I do agree that he is the best defender on the team, but the gap to me is not as big as you make it sound, unless you talk about potential, there he is in a league of his own.

    For me Stützle was the best player against the Swiss, but Elias would have been fine, both assuming that they couldn't pick Reichel again. Why Schwaiger got it is a mystery to me.

    I've also liked David Diebolder so far. He made a great defensive play shorthanded late in the game vs. Switzerland and overall I thought he played a really good two-way-game both times.
     
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    By and large, I accept your opinion, but here we disagree:

    - Szuber is in my opinion a bad skater and overestimates his abilities infinitely. Head wobbling is not a body shake, you know?

    - Stützle was superficially the best player, but not consistent enough. Elias played with the necessary seriousness. Note his goal to 3:1 what he himself initiated and was allowed to complete as a reward.

    - Diebolder is at this level at the upper limit of its potential. For me, he ran around randomly for 60 minutes.

    I agree:

    - Glötzl receives too little ice time and is used incorrectly by the coaches. He has the greatest potential of all German defenders and does not get the confidence of the coaches. That's why he does not play as outstanding as he could
     
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    Summarizing some stats from the recent U17 tournament (vs. Slovakia, Switzerland, Czech Republic and USA):
    Lukas Reichel: 5g 6a
    Tim Stützle: 2g 5a
    Florian Elias: 3g 4a
    Justin Volek: 3g 2a
     
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    Do we think that Stuetzle will be going to the USHL in 2018-19 season since he was drafted in the league and plans on playing for University of New Hampshire in 2020?
     
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    No, we do not think, we know. :thumbu:
     
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    Do you have a link or is it just something you know personally from a source or something?
    I know that a couple of Sioux City Musketeers fans would be very interested to know this.
     
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    There is no link. It's an open secret in his environment. I will not give more details.
     
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    Thanks a lot, that's good enough for me. I hope he makes a smooth transition and continues to develop nicely.
     
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    The more accurate answer would be: It's the plan right now, but nothing's set in stone until it actually happens.

    Players commit to colleges and USHL teams but later choose to go a different route all the time. Stützle will likely have close to all 60 CHL teams interested in him next year and will without a doubt listen to what they have to say when the time comes. When a club like the London or Halifax knocks, they'll have some very convincing arguments to make.
     
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    Could he play this season in the USHL and, then switch to the CHL for the 19/20 season? I don't mean if that is likely, just if the rules allow it.
     
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    You think he's that good? I absolutely agree that players all the time commit to college and decide to change their ways, Stuetzle is probably doing the safe path and having multiple options...and if he has a great season he will probably join a CHL team next year.
     
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    You're all right, but for me your arguments are too focused on hockey. There is a life next to it and afterwards.
     
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    I have made some extended highlight videos from the games Germany played at the U17 tournament. The video from the Slovakia game is incomplete, because some parts of the game were not available and I cut out one of the Slovakian goals by mistake. Anyway here are the links:

    Game #1 vs. Slovakia:


    Game #2 vs. Switzerland:
     
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    Game #3 vs. Czech Republic:


    Game #4 vs. USA:
     
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    Yes. It's possible to go from CHL to USHL as well, happens a lot. Only thing you can't do is play college hockey if you've ever been in the CHL.

    Yes.

    Oh definitely, but for players at Stützle's level, hockey=life. I don't know him personally, but from everything I've heard, he seems like a hard-working kid who wants to make it to the pros. And while they most certainly should think about life after hockey and what happens if they can't turn pro and make it a career, hockey is the No. 1 thing for them. If Stützle makes the NHL and makes minimum $650,000 a year but likely more, who cares if he played in the NCAA or not. He'll have to consider everything, and he did a smart thing committing to an NCAA school, but the CHL still has some great advantages that could definitely persuade him. We'll just have to wait and see.

    The same will be true for Lukas Reichel and probably Florian Elias when they're eligible for the CHL Import Draft this season.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification. Some of these eligibility rules are still confusing me, even after several years of following junior hockey in North America.
     
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    Stützle was not listed on the roster for Sioux City (I think it's for their training camp). Tommy Pasanen is on the roster, however. He had been drafted the year before.
     
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    Oh wow, I'm just realising now that I completely misunderstood the discussion – none of what I said in response even made sense! Haha. 2018-19 still sounds like "next year" to me. I thought you'd asked if he'd go to Sioux City in 2019-20 and the question was therefore not if he was going over this summer but if he'll play for the club at all.
     
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    So, after my misunderstanding, back to the original question:

    Just confirmed with the Musketeers that Stützle will stay in Mannheim this season, then join Sioux City in 2019. So, any information about him going over this year appears to be false.

    Last I heard about the plans after that is that Stützle will join New Hampshire as a true freshman following the draft in 2020.
     
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    That was my fault. I stumbled over the years. that was the cause of the discussion. 2018 is not running long enough for me. :naughty:

    Your last info is correct.
     

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