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Setting up the play?
It would appear that ownership has them sorting by price: lowest to highest.Another proof that BT really doesn't know what the hell he is doing.
It would appear that ownership has them sorting by price: lowest to highest.Another proof that BT really doesn't know what the hell he is doing.
It would appear that ownership has them sorting by price: lowest to highest.
You have to subtract operating costs... how sure is Burke of that number? And was he talking revenue or profit?the funny thing is that Brian Burke stated one extra home playoff game can make 3 million dollars. That literally pays the bill.
gotta spend money to make money... novel concept
actually 20000 seats at 200 bucks is 4 mil revenue and I bet the average playoff seat is more than 200 in Calgary.
Stay away from.Babcock. The guy is incredible overrated. He is one of the worst in game coaches in the league. Just watch the Leafs Bruins series last 2 years. Cassidy skated circles around him. He rarely changes lines except for in extreme situations, and loves his grinders.
For someone who is haralded as a great systems coach and defensive idiologies, the Leafs were always awful defensively under him, and funny enough improved defensively when Keefe came on.
If you want somewhat of a motivational guy, sure get him, but if your looking for an actual coach, stay away from him.
I will leave you with this.
Babcock played a washed up useless Marleau more then Matthews in a game 7 in the 3rd period.
Thanks for the heads up, but I don't think Babcock was ever a finalist here due to the fact his protege Peters unceremoniously ended up in Russia.Leafs fan here.
Tough game 6 but good season for you guys.
Unlikely you guys would choose Babcock, but if any one of you were considering him, don't.
I posted this on 2 other team boards.
You have to subtract operating costs... how sure is Burke of that number? And was he talking revenue or profit?
Thats true. Honestly if you look at the people that came from Babcock's coaching tree, none of them are good.Thanks for the heads up, but I don't think Babcock was ever a finalist here due to the fact his protege Peters unceremoniously ended up in Russia.
well there is also concessions. 3-4 million would be minimum profit IMO. No way operating costs for additional games are more than a million per game.
regardless, the point stands. Pretty sure the Caps regret not paying Trotz right now
The Athletic says 1.5-3 million in Revenue, not profit, from home games for what it's worth.
playoffs games? The math just doesn’t add up though. Like I said 200 bucks x 20000 seats is 4 million. Plus beers, food and merch (and potentially parking if the team owns that)
I think 1.5-3 million would make sense for a regular season game when ticket prices are lower,
playoffs games? The math just doesn’t add up though. Like I said 200 bucks x 20000 seats is 4 million. Plus beers, food and merch (and potentially parking if the team owns that)
I think 1.5-3 million would make sense for a regular season game when ticket prices are lower,
But do you have an idea of the number of staff required and their compensation? What about power and other resources? To me, that's a huge mystery. Also, do concessions divert all profits to the owners, or do they just take a cut?
As you say, the decisions to pinch pennies on coaches wouldn't make any sense for any franchise if the reward was that substantial. So that's why I'm skeptical.
If we want an uneducated but reasonable guess on concession revenue, figure average $25 per person spent (low? two beers, nachos) with 35% overhead. (high estimate)
$25 x 20,000 = $500,000
Less overhead ($175,000)
Per game profit = $325,000
Never mind revenue from merchandise costs, inflated ticket prices, or parking. Also team share of network revenue, and board advertising.
$3 million profit per game is definitely reasonable.
No profit on $8 popcorn? On $9 beer? On $13 nachos?I think the concession stuff is negligible overall. It's like fight night at a pub. They're probably making far more on cover than drinks and food.
No profit on $8 popcorn? On $9 beer? On $13 nachos?
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I'd just like a coach that can get the team to play with some level of consistency. This team has been on again off again for like 6 years. The highs are great but the lows come around too often. Gaudreau and Monahan especially.
Maybe Ward is that guy, I didn't mind some things he was doing. Tough to judge really on what was a very strange half season of coaching. He just seems a little too laissez faire about things for my liking. Probably would prefer Laviolette or Gallant, guys who coached a team to a final recently. Flames always cheap out on the coach though so Ward is probably ownership's preferred option.
Parking is owned and done by the Calgary Stampede, they are getting zero from that. Ive heard multiple times over the years that each playoff home game brings in about 1mil in profits for owners.playoffs games? The math just doesn’t add up though. Like I said 200 bucks x 20000 seats is 4 million. Plus beers, food and merch (and potentially parking if the team owns that)
I think 1.5-3 million would make sense for a regular season game when ticket prices are lower,
One of the underrated things that I seemed to notice was that his line blender stuff wasn't as heavily criticized by our fan base. I actually found it bizarre that many fans kept freaking out that Ward wasn't making adjustments, because he was making huge adjustments.
I know he's a players' coach who talks to the players and finds way to help them play well. He also gives players leash and doesn't seem to staple anyone to pine for singular mistakes. The players seem much more relaxed and if something bad happens, you can tell certain players go out looking for a pound of flesh and full on redemption.
He had no training camp, he had a huge off ice distraction, he was thrown into the fire mid season, he took the game plan from the season and tweaked it a ton for playoffs, with significantly more positive tweaks than bad tweaks (ie: Peters). I really disliked the last game against Dallas, but the more time has passed, that game was just straight up all sorts of weird bad luck. Both goalies, including his team MVP goalie for playoffs suddenly played like a pair of drunk beer leaguers. That's not totally on him.
I still really want one of BB/GG or Lavi, but Ward did definitely exceed my expectations by a lot and if it were any year other than this one with 3 super high profile guys available, I'd be more than happy to give Ward the reigns no questions asked.
A player coach..have I heard that before...I thought that was a disaster for this group. They need a coach, not a friend
While the players may like the lighter approach of Geoff Ward, I think they know this is not the way to get the team through multiple rounds of the playoffs.
They need a task master and as much as they seemed to dislike Peters his first season, they were 2nd overall in the West under his guidance.
Open the coffers and pay to have someone like a Gallant call Calgary home for the next 3 years, let's see how that goes!