Geno: What is he worth?

[ImporterExporter]

Please, let me be the first to say and say convincingly that I do NOT think Malkin should be traded or will be, but if one of the two superstars hypothetically speaking would be moved it would be Geno. Sid is never getting traded unless he expressly asked for it.

With that being said, and i've seen it floated here on this very board by people....what is his value if we offered him up to teams from the end of the year to draft day? What is an acceptable return if were the Pens (and by that i mean taking morons like Mario, Ron and good ole JR out of the equation)?

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[Big McLargehuge]

All of it.

 

[doubledown99]

Shea Weber

 

[sexyllama]

"Well, more wealth than you can imagine!"

 

[Cherpak]

Shea Weber

As much as I like Weber this is a unilateral move at best. Trade Malkin and put Sutter as the 2nd line center? I seriously doubt Weber being on our blue line makes up the goal difference with the loss of Geno. No thanks.

 

[JQR]

I don't think he could be traded for another offense.

Subban + 1st round 2016 + conditional 1st round 2017? That's just a shot in the dark though. I'm really bad at determining player value.

 

[Crosberry87]

Backes, Oshie, 1st, prospect

 

[Gallatin]

Genocide is worth more than we could get in a trade. No Movement clause really complicates things.

And you win Cups with guys like Malkin, but unfortunately not Sid. Would be a crazy stupid move IMO.

 

[Waffle Fries]

Genocide is worth more than we could get in a trade. No Movement clause really complicates things.

And you win Cups with guys like Malkin, but unfortunately not Sid. Would be a crazy stupid move IMO.

Geno shouldn't (and won't) be moved but this is a ridiculous comment.

 

[Cherpak]

Backes, Oshie, 1st, prospect

That proposal is on the trade boards minus the prospect. Hell no.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

My buddy texted me saying the Penguins should "take" the offer from Boston that he saw. I was like "What offer?" and he said Bergeron and more. I was like wait, what? No.

 

[Cherpak]

My buddy texted me saying the Penguins should "take" the offer from Boston that he saw. I was like "What offer?" and he said Bergeron and more. I was like wait, what? No.

Its gonna be a looooong offseason....

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Giroux, Simmonds, 1st

IMAGINE IT.

 

[Will Hunting]

Genocide is worth more than we could get in a trade. No Movement clause really complicates things.

And you win Cups with guys like Malkin, but unfortunately not Sid. Would be a crazy stupid move IMO.

Are you serious?? Sid was the one who was very good vs the Rangers by the way...

As for Malkin, I think that we have to be very precise with his linemates. He needs to trust them and then he´s having fun, playing well. When he doesn´t trust them, it sometimes looks like he doesn´t even care... I´m all for bringing him a Russian (Panarin/Tikhonov). Make Geno happy again. Profit.

Btw I liked how he apologized to the fans and to the teammates for his playoffs performance. He´s a honest guy playing for a terrible organization. That said, he can´t have another playoffs like this one. I will give him a pass for a moment because we were going nowhere anyway, but this kind of thing just can´t repeat anymore.

 

[JQR]

Giroux, Simmonds, 1st

IMAGINE IT.

Man, with Giroux we'd have the two best players in the world.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Geno shouldn't (and won't) be moved but this is a ridiculous comment.

Well let's remmeber Malkin would either need to ask to be moved or they would need to ask him. Look at that situation in San Jose and how uncomfortable that is, Joe really doesn't want to leave and they wanted him to and to make him go they stripped him of the C and now he bad mouths his GM and its freaking hilarious.

 

[cheesedanish87]

I'd be open to trading Geno for the right deal, with the way hockey is now i think having 3 really good players is more valuable to a team then having 1 superstar.

Were in a league right now where the leading scorers can't get 90 points, and we see superstar players getting shutdown or limited by good teams in the playoffs.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Let's also not forget that we most likely aren't dealing him to an Eastern Conference team. That would be quite stupid IMO if indeed he would get dealt.

I'd think an up and coming team that wanted a big time star to add as a "final" piece to push them as serious Cup contender would make sense. Calgary has Monahan and Bennett, we'd obviously need one back in return + a good bit more (think picks/players combo).

Vancouver is another team. Not sure if a team in turmoil like San Jose would work. Anaheim, but they already have Getzlaf and two big contracts.

 

[Cherpak]

Let's also not forget that we most likely aren't dealing him to an Eastern Conference team. That would be quite stupid IMO if indeed he would get dealt.

I'd think an up and coming team that wanted a big time star to add as a "final" piece to push them as serious Cup contender would make sense. Calgary has Monahan and Bennett, we'd obviously need one back in return + a good bit more (think picks/players combo).

Vancouver is another team. Not sure if a team in turmoil like San Jose would work. Anaheim, but they already have Getzlaf and two big contracts.

Problem with your team picks is that it isn't up to the Pens. If he were traded it would be all up to Geno as to where he goes.

 

[Human]

Man, with Giroux we'd have the two best players in the world.

don't know about that, but we'd have the best player in the world.

if they trade Geno I quit... pretty simple...

 

[Zen Arcade]

I'm legitimately concerned that they're going to do something stupid like trade Malkin.

Past offseasons I would've just rolled my eyes and laughed it off, but with the way things are going...

 

[Cherpak]

don't know about that, but we'd have the best player in the world.

if they trade Geno I quit... pretty simple...

Watching this defense try and defend him would be entertaining at least.

 

[Cherpak]

I'm legitimately concerned that they're going to do something stupid like trade Malkin.

Past offseasons I would've just rolled my eyes and laughed it off, but with the way things are going...

Ok your seriously scaring me now....

 

[mpp9]

I'd be open to trading Geno for the right deal, with the way hockey is now i think having 3 really good players is more valuable to a team then having 1 superstar.

Were in a league right now where the leading scorers can't get 90 points, and we see superstar players getting shutdown or limited by good teams in the playoffs.

If we could get an elite #2C and an elite 1st line LW for Sid, sure, I'd be all for it. But that's not realistic. No team would gut their forward group that much.

 

[JQR]

don't know about that, but we'd have the best player in the world.

if they trade Geno I quit... pretty simple...

It's a reference to something Laviolette said:

When the best player in the world comes up to you and tells you, 'I don't know who you're planning on starting tonight, but I want that first shift', that says everything you need to know about Claude Giroux right there.

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2012/4/23/2968771/flyers-penguins-game-6-claude-giroux-quotes