Prospect Info: General Prospect Discussion Thread 2019-20

[Dr Jan Itor]

He have a shot at the WJC or is Canada's roster fairly locked in?

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

He have a shot at the WJC or is Canada's roster fairly locked in?

I asked in the wjc thread and someone said we’ll find out depending if he gets an invite to camp

 

[Wild11MN]

Beckman makes an apperance

Weird. I read that article earlier today just to see if Beckman was listed, and he wasn't. They must have edited him in later.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

Weird. I read that article earlier today just to see if Beckman was listed, and he wasn't. They must have edited him in later.

Jacob M.

Great list, fun to see which guys got overlooked for sure. Im mildly surprised Adam Beckman wasnt listed though. It's not often that a third rounder is #5 in scoring in the WHL in a D+1 season.

Corey Pronman
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4h ago
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@Jacob M. Beckman probably should be in here that was an oversight, I will add.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Jacob M.

Great list, fun to see which guys got overlooked for sure. Im mildly surprised Adam Beckman wasnt listed though. It's not often that a third rounder is #5 in scoring in the WHL in a D+1 season.

Corey Pronman
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4h ago
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@Jacob M. Beckman probably should be in here that was an oversight, I will add.

Best trade for Minnesota. We traded a future Adam Beckman for an Adam Beckman

 

[Wild11MN]

Confirmed I'm not crazy.

 

[57special]

No, you still might be crazy, just were right about Beckman.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Weird. I read that article earlier today just to see if Beckman was listed, and he wasn't. They must have edited him in later.

”Adam Beckman, C, Minnesota
Drafted: No. 75 overall
Beckman is off to a great start, as one of the leading scorers in the WHL. He impressed at times last season with his goal-scoring ability, potting 32, but there was never really any wow factor to his game and he wasn’t a top scorer in the league. I still don’t think his speed or playmaking is all that special, but he has skill and has worked on rounding out his game, adding penalty killing duties this season, for example. He’s so dangerous around the middle of the ice and around the net as a finisher. He’s probably not a first-round talent right now, as he needs to gain an extra step, but I could see him as a second-round pick in a redraft”

he’s the last one

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Boldy questionable for Team USA @ WJC. You can’t make this Minnesota luck up

 

[AKL]

Boldy questionable for Team USA @ WJC. You can’t make this Minnesota luck up

When is the last time our 1st round pick has been completely forgettable while our 2nd-7th round picks have been carrying the prospect pool? Never?

I still believe Boldy will turn out, but it’s crazy that for two years in a row now our 1sts have been garbage in their d+1 year and we have guys like Khovanov, Hentges, Jones, Beckman on absolute tears.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

When is the last time our 1st round pick has been completely forgettable while our 2nd-7th round picks have been carrying the prospect pool? Never?

I still believe Boldy will turn out, but it’s crazy that for two years in a row now our 1sts have been garbage in their d+1 year and we have guys like Khovanov, Hentges, Jones, Beckman on absolute tears.

Yeah I don’t know. Boldy has a game tonight that I’m probably going to listen to. He needs to get one. Lafrienere will save our pool

 

[TaLoN]

When is the last time our 1st round pick has been completely forgettable while our 2nd-7th round picks have been carrying the prospect pool? Never?

I still believe Boldy will turn out, but it’s crazy that for two years in a row now our 1sts have been garbage in their d+1 year and we have guys like Khovanov, Hentges, Jones, Beckman on absolute tears.

AJ Thelen's career completely fell apart in his d+1 year.

The truest bust in franchise history.

 

[AKL]

AJ Thelen's career completely fell apart in his d+1 year.

The truest bust in franchise history.

Yeah but we didn’t really have anyone else to look forward to from that year either. I mean, unless you count Roman Voloshenko?

 

[TaLoN]

Yeah but we didn’t really have anyone else to look forward to from that year either. I mean, unless you count Roman Voloshenko?

2 solid, but not great NHL players came out of that draft for us... Clayton Stoner and Anton Khudobin.

 

[AKL]

2 solid, but not great NHL players came out of that draft for us... Clayton Stoner and Anton Khudobin.

I don’t think people were hyping up Clayton Stoner or Anton Khudobin the same way we’re hyping up Khovanov, Jones and Beckman. But I could be wrong.

 

[TaLoN]

I don’t think people were hyping up Clayton Stoner or Anton Khudobin the same way we’re hyping up Khovanov, Jones and Beckman. But I could be wrong.

They sure weren't hyping up Thelen. You asked when the last time a first round pick was forgettable and didn't carry our draft.

That was the purest form of it. Got kicked out of NCAA, went to the WHL and played terrible, then didn't even get to the AHL, but went to the Wild's ECHL affiliate before fading away completely.

Voloshenko was highly thought of for a while, but ultimately it was just Stoner and Khudobin that survived.

It was a terrible draft, carried by a couple plugs at best.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Boldy questionable for Team USA @ WJC. You can’t make this Minnesota luck up

It's a conclusion that anybody can come up with looking at his numbers, but he's going to be put on the wing in camp, and if people are right that his game is fine and he's just not scoring, then he should be fine.

 

[thestonedkoala]

AJ Thelen's career completely fell apart in his d+1 year.

The truest bust in franchise history.

At least we got a 2nd round pick for not signing Thelen. We got Knight for Phillips and uh...nothing for Cuma. Also we got Zidlicky for Jones and a 2nd round pick and Bordeleau, although didn't play for Minnesota, had at least one decent season.

 

[TaLoN]

At least we got a 2nd round pick for not signing Thelen. We got Knight for Phillips and uh...nothing for Cuma. Also we got Zidlicky for Jones and a 2nd round pick and Bordeleau, although didn't play for Minnesota, had at least one decent season.

Phillips was raved about for years before flopping in the AHL, and still, we had Brodin to carry that draft.

Cuma was developing far better than anyone expected on draft day, just when everyone was getting excited and penciling him into lineups, he'd tear up a knee... after multiple knee injuries, he couldn't skate, and his entire game was based on his superb skating. Can't fault the guy for bad luck.

Thus, it still goes back to Thelen as the most forgettable 1st round pick that forced later picks to carry the draft in the fans minds.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Cuma was developing far better than anyone expected on draft day, just when everyone was getting excited and penciling him into lineups, he'd tear up a knee... after multiple knee injuries, he couldn't skate, and his entire game was based on his superb skating. Can't fault the guy for bad luck.

No, but he is pretty forgettable 1st round pick. Also Gillies LOL. I forgot we drafted him.

Thus, it still goes back to Thelen as the most forgettable 1st round pick that forced later picks to carry the draft in the fans minds.

I remember everyone wanted Thelen over Stafford. I wanted Stafford, but we had gone forward in the draft a bunch and so we needed defensemen. Also we moved up to grab Cuma. That was such an awful draft (4 picks) and only Scandella was able to salvage that draft. 2007 and 2008 is what killed the Wild.

 

[TaLoN]

No, but he is pretty forgettable 1st round pick. Also Gillies LOL. I forgot we drafted him.



I remember everyone wanted Thelen over Stafford. I wanted Stafford, but we had gone forward in the draft a bunch and so we needed defensemen. Also we moved up to grab Cuma. That was such an awful draft (4 picks) and only Scandella was able to salvage that draft. 2007 and 2008 is what killed the Wild.

Yet, back to the original point... only Thelen was so instantly forgettable as was the mentioned criteria. He was literally written off by fans his d+1 season.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Yet, back to the original point... only Thelen was so instantly forgettable as was the mentioned criteria. He was literally written off by fans his d+1 season.

I don't think it was his play, but the fact that there was some weird crap going down at MSU.

 

[AKL]

Yet, back to the original point... only Thelen was so instantly forgettable as was the mentioned criteria. He was literally written off by fans his d+1 season.

The original also included 2nd-7th rounders carrying the pool, not just 1st rounders putting up forgettable seasons.

 

[TaLoN]

I don't think it was his play, but the fact that there was some weird crap going down at MSU.

It was everything about him both on and off ice. His game vanished, then he became a cancer. His game was never seen again as quality at any level he played from then on.

The original also included 2nd-7th rounders carrying the pool, not just 1st rounders putting up forgettable seasons.

As I mentioned, and you did as well, Voloshenko was highly thought of for a time. He was originally expected to be a first round pick. People called him a steal on draft day and were genuinely excited about him for a while. He just never panned out.

 

[thestonedkoala]

It was everything about him both on and off ice. His game vanished, then he became a cancer. His game was never seen again as quality at any level he played from then on.

Was it ever reported what exactly happened?