GDT: [Game #7] Rangers (3-2-0) @ Flames (2-3-1) 7:45pm MT

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The worst part is you could normally just be like "oh well, get a good draft pick and make a few trades for next year"..... not with those Kadri and Huberdeau contracts.
 
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-9 goal differential.

The worst part is you could normally just be like "oh well, get a good draft pick and make a few trades for next year"..... not with those Kadri and Huberdeau contracts.
Yup, albatross contracts for a long time. Dammit I'm 53 years old. Those contracts will be over when I'm 60 for crying out loud.
 

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At least the Oilers have been awful too. That is like the only positive from the season so far.

This team is not good enough. Why can't the ownership/management see that? Shit.
 

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Precarious little team Brad left us with. At least he'll do the same with Toronto given enough time. Treliving the Tornado. What a guy.
 
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I hadn't been able to watch much Flames hockey lately with the early starts, so I didn't expect much but was really impressed with how the Flames played tonight.

But man, the top end just isn't there right now and it is killing us. Rasmus being out hurts, but this team absolutely needs its top offensive players to be dangerous at 5-on-5 and especially on the PP, but right now there doesn't seem to be any way they know how to do that.

Savard was supposed to come in and design something, but I don't see a plan out there.

I do think the PP is the key, though. If the Flames can figure out something there, I think it could get some mojo going.
 

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Just a listless group of veterans that have no chemistry. Hell even the young kids are not playing with the same spunk anymore.

What the hell was the point in naming Backlund captain, again?
 
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I honestly can't see Lindholm wanting to stay here. He went from the top line of hockey to whatever this is.

Just classic Flames to finally assemble a great talented top line only to have it fall apart after one year. Day late and a dollar short is the ethos this franchise lives by.


Hard not to be overly negative at this point. I actually saw some encouraging things in the 3rd. Much better effort than against the Wings anyway. Shesterkin took away what should have been some sure goals with great saves. Markstrom the highest paid goalie on the ice and once again 2nd best. Loss isn't on him but that is an ongoing theme.

Good - Coleman, Mangiapane, liked Zad mostly. Hanifin was a little slow decision making but was mostly solid.

Not bad - Kadri had his best game of the season, which isn't saying much but at least he was skating and shooting. Lindy was just ok, needed more from him. Gilbert I guess was fine. Duehr, Sharangovich. Dube I guess was alright? Forechecked well anyways. Coronato made a couple nice plays, couple bad ones.

Be better - Marky has got to gain a couple lbs to fill that hole under his arm. 4th goal against of the season that squeaks by him. Weegar stunk honestly, fumbled pucks at the blueline all game. Tanev was about the same.

BAD - Huberdeau, I had some guarded optimism that he would be better this season. Said the right things, got rid of Darryl, guys have off seasons sometimes. Only took 7 games for that guarded optimism to turn into deep skepticism. This guy gets the puck and stops moving his feet immediately. You have to skate to create opportunities and he seems incapable of doing that right now. Find it shocking he has scored 672pts in this league.
Powerplay is at 12.5% woof
Oesterle also sucks

I'm not ready to give up on them yet, at least not completely, but I wonder at what point Connie considers making a trade just to shake up this roster.
 
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I hadn't been able to watch much Flames hockey lately with the early starts, so I didn't expect much but was really impressed with how the Flames played tonight.

But man, the top end just isn't there right now and it is killing us. Rasmus being out hurts, but this team absolutely needs its top offensive players to be dangerous at 5-on-5 and especially on the PP, but right now there doesn't seem to be any way they know how to do that.

Savard was supposed to come in and design something, but I don't see a plan out there.

I do think the PP is the key, though. If the Flames can figure out something there, I think it could get some mojo going.

Can't expect much when there's not much to work with. We don't have a Barkov for Huberdeau to hide behind or Bennett/Duclair types to help him out. Kadri doesn't have a MacKinnon to take the harder matchups or Rantanen/Makar to help out on even strength and the powerplay. There is no chemistry with our players and they lack high end skill. It's why Sutter pushed them so hard, he was trying to squeeze blood from a stone and they couldn't handle it.
 
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Can't expect much when there's not much to work with. We don't have a Barkov for Huberdeau to hide behind or Bennett/Duclair types to help him out. Kadri doesn't have a MacKinnon to take the harder matchups or Rantanen/Makar to help out on even strength and the powerplay. There is no chemistry with our players and they lack high end skill. It's why Sutter pushed them so hard, he was trying to squeeze blood from a stone and they couldn't handle it.
sutter is not an idiot
He knew the only way for them to have success but they are just not made for his ways.
There isn’t really a solution for this team

Defense is erratic
Goaltending is leaky
The forwards are lacking drive and most importantly skills
 
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sutter is not an idiot
He knew the only way for them to have success but they are just not made for his ways.
There isn’t really a solution for this team

Defense is erratic
Goaltending is leaky
The forwards are lacking drive and most importantly skills

I agree. It's why I thought we should keep Sutter and trade everyone else but Murray has a nonsensical playoff mandate so we're f***ed until he finally realizes its time to build a team properly.
 

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The team is bad. Enough said. That huberdeau contract might become an all time worst in league history. Absolutely useless player with this roster.
 
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The team is bad. Enough said. That huberdeau contract might become an all time worst in league history. Absolutely useless player with this roster.
That's the unfortunate thing. The guy just doesn't mesh well with our players. Now maybe that turns around, but he's not at all trending well.

I hate that it's like this. I keep watching the games.. hoping that I see a version of Huby that resembles a player that hit over 100 in a season. Hell, even PPG Huby would be fantastic. But there's long stretches where I don't hear his name.. I don't notice him on the ice, and I know I'm just a layman here.. but -- ugh.

I'm rooting for him. I want him to play great. I guess not noticing him would even be acceptable as long as points/wins were racking up. We'll see how it goes.

Starting to get a strange feeling that Darryl got run outta town. I am sure hoping Huska gets them going.
 

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Vegas wins again, we're already 9 points out of 1st in the Pacific after only 7 games.
Will Markstrom ever have a game above 900 again?
Hoping for a miracle on Thursday. Maybe Binnington will go after Kadri and all hell will break loose.
Wonder who's going to fill in for Ruzicka? Greer and Hunt?
 
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Can't expect much when there's not much to work with. We don't have a Barkov for Huberdeau to hide behind or Bennett/Duclair types to help him out. Kadri doesn't have a MacKinnon to take the harder matchups or Rantanen/Makar to help out on even strength and the powerplay. There is no chemistry with our players and they lack high end skill. It's why Sutter pushed them so hard, he was trying to squeeze blood from a stone and they couldn't handle it.
I'm sorry, you don't think Calgary has players at the level of Bennett or Duclair?

This would be like saying Detroit never got the most out of Hudler because they never had a Josh Jooris.
 

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I honestly can't see Lindholm wanting to stay here. He went from the top line of hockey to whatever this is.
Except he hasn’t shown up yet. Supposed to be a #1 center and a leader. Not seeing it. Definitely not dynamic enough to make 9M+. Thing is I think he’s better at RW1 for us than 1C. Because he’s a classic 2C on a Cup contender. Should be playing behind a guy like Mackinnon not trying to be a first line center because he’s not. Obviously Gaudreau and Tkachuk inflated his value. If his ego could handle it the team would be better off going Huby-Kadri-Lindholm as the first line. But he wants to be a center.
 

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The worst part is you could normally just be like "oh well, get a good draft pick and make a few trades for next year"..... not with those Kadri and Huberdeau contracts.
I mean the Flames could literally could tank the rest of the season, and Montreal can't touch this year's first. A generational talent at centre would certainly help things.

They would of course lose the lottery, pick 4th, and select some 6'8" winger from the WHL.
 
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I mean the Flames could literally could tank the rest of the season, and Montreal can't touch this year's first. A generational talent at centre would certainly help things.

They would of course lose the lottery, pick 4th, and select some 6'8" winger from the WHL.
Sneak into the top 5-6 of the draft again and snag a Matthew Tkachuk and get out. Would be gud.
Still early though. I think they can turn this around.
 
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A diabetes drug that's now been approved for weight loss?

You never looked for the answer for "what's Ozempic" huh.
I think it was last season Ozempic commercials were a staple on Flames broadcast. Every time they took a commercial break you'd see an Ozempic commercial. That's when they didn't say what Ozempic was for. Kind of became a little joke in game day threads when the Flames were struggling or trailing. Someone would usually say, the boys need some Ozempic.
 
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Except he hasn’t shown up yet. Supposed to be a #1 center and a leader. Not seeing it. Definitely not dynamic enough to make 9M+. Thing is I think he’s better at RW1 for us than 1C. Because he’s a classic 2C on a Cup contender. Should be playing behind a guy like Mackinnon not trying to be a first line center because he’s not. Obviously Gaudreau and Tkachuk inflated his value. If his ego could handle it the team would be better off going Huby-Kadri-Lindholm as the first line. But he wants to be a center.
He is a good center if you can find an elite winger to carry him. Doesn’t look like Huberdeau is the right fit and the Flames don’t have another elite winger

I'm sorry, you don't think Calgary has players at the level of Bennett or Duclair?

This would be like saying Detroit never got the most out of Hudler because they never had a Josh Jooris.
They may but do you see one that fit with Huberdeau? Have we tried Hunt yet?
 

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I'm sorry, you don't think Calgary has players at the level of Bennett or Duclair?

This would be like saying Detroit never got the most out of Hudler because they never had a Josh Jooris.

I'm talking style of play not talent level. Nobody that will fit Huberdeau like those two did. Those two were perfect for Huberdeau's delay playmaking style because they were fast, could carry the puck and would crash the net and pick up rebounds.
 

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I think it was last season Ozempic commercials were a staple on Flames broadcast. Every time they took a commercial break you'd see an Ozempic commercial. That's when they didn't say what Ozempic was for. Kind of became a little joke in game day threads when the Flames were struggling or trailing. Someone would usually say, the boys need some Ozempic.
Oh. To me it sounded like a Viagra joke 🤣
 
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