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Post-Game Talk: GAME 7... of the regular season: Canucks 1 @ Jets 4 | 7GP, 7 cities, 4-3-0
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End of road trip and the team couldn't sustain effort in the third. Problem we figured would be there (and especially now without Pettersson) that we couldn't score enough seemed evident tonight. Just not going to be able to hang in games by trying to keep down chances against and such. Must get some scoring from some place.
Good
Horvat - nice goal and really only player that was doing much off the rush.
Pouliot - may have me eating my words. Lot quicker in making the play and not bad defensively. Consistently getting big minutes and consistently making the right play out of the zone.
Edler - was very strong in the first two periods and overall our best defenseman. Penalty against him in the third, which lead to the dam breaking, was crap.
Bad
Boeser - fumbled around with the puck badly and made numerous poor passes. (some of which put the team in a terrible position) Lack of conditioning or whatever has hurt all aspects of his game. Throughout much of the game was the worst forward.
Virtanen - so many poor decisions. Got aimless in his own zone and lost total track of positioning and check. Lots of tentative passes which put teammates in a bad position. When he gets tired the first thing to go with Virtanen is the mind. Telegraphs what he is going to do with the puck leading to breakouts for the other team.
Others
Goldobin - team has to pray he can getting it going offensively. Times where he will make a clever play and you get some hope. But way too much with the extra move or the extra look which causes him to lose the puck or get tied up in traffic. Has to process things quicker and then be more intense in completing the play. If he doesn't produce goals then he is too deficient elsewhere to be a positive.
Granlund - his line with Schaller and Motte started very well and hemmed up the Jeats in the Jets end. However, faded badly and got pushed back into their crease in the third. Granlund couldn't win face offs (especially critical ones in his zone). This line can be effective in getting some o-zone time but you have to wonder how they will ever score.
Gubranson - I was thinking Gudbranson was continuing a period of strong play until the collapse in the third. However, he was far from the lone culprit on those goals. Blaming Gudbranson for the loss is simplistic and ridiculous. Both Hutton and the forwards were even more at fault and players were open all over the ice. Gudbranson tried to do too much but at least he wasn't standing around.
Hutton - think he is playing better. Again breakdown in the third had more to do with the inability of the forwards to get the puck out along the boards or keep their check out of the play. Hutton, was good for much of the game and is much better at moving the puck and getting up the ice to support the play. This contrasts with his play last year where he passed the puck and then just stopped and watched the pass. Also better at fighting thru checks. Hutton still has problems when reacting to break-downs in his own end leading to the kind of goal mouth scrambles and confusion that occurred in the third.
Baertschi - running out of gas seemed most apparent with him
Roussel - thought he was better than decent and he made the right play for most of the game. Has played pretty well so far
Gaudette - couple of ok shifts but l mostly looked like a rookie who getting thru the perimeter of the defense. Has some raw talent and we will see what Green is able to do with it.
Good
Horvat - nice goal and really only player that was doing much off the rush.
Pouliot - may have me eating my words. Lot quicker in making the play and not bad defensively. Consistently getting big minutes and consistently making the right play out of the zone.
Edler - was very strong in the first two periods and overall our best defenseman. Penalty against him in the third, which lead to the dam breaking, was crap.
Bad
Boeser - fumbled around with the puck badly and made numerous poor passes. (some of which put the team in a terrible position) Lack of conditioning or whatever has hurt all aspects of his game. Throughout much of the game was the worst forward.
Virtanen - so many poor decisions. Got aimless in his own zone and lost total track of positioning and check. Lots of tentative passes which put teammates in a bad position. When he gets tired the first thing to go with Virtanen is the mind. Telegraphs what he is going to do with the puck leading to breakouts for the other team.
Others
Goldobin - team has to pray he can getting it going offensively. Times where he will make a clever play and you get some hope. But way too much with the extra move or the extra look which causes him to lose the puck or get tied up in traffic. Has to process things quicker and then be more intense in completing the play. If he doesn't produce goals then he is too deficient elsewhere to be a positive.
Granlund - his line with Schaller and Motte started very well and hemmed up the Jeats in the Jets end. However, faded badly and got pushed back into their crease in the third. Granlund couldn't win face offs (especially critical ones in his zone). This line can be effective in getting some o-zone time but you have to wonder how they will ever score.
Gubranson - I was thinking Gudbranson was continuing a period of strong play until the collapse in the third. However, he was far from the lone culprit on those goals. Blaming Gudbranson for the loss is simplistic and ridiculous. Both Hutton and the forwards were even more at fault and players were open all over the ice. Gudbranson tried to do too much but at least he wasn't standing around.
Hutton - think he is playing better. Again breakdown in the third had more to do with the inability of the forwards to get the puck out along the boards or keep their check out of the play. Hutton, was good for much of the game and is much better at moving the puck and getting up the ice to support the play. This contrasts with his play last year where he passed the puck and then just stopped and watched the pass. Also better at fighting thru checks. Hutton still has problems when reacting to break-downs in his own end leading to the kind of goal mouth scrambles and confusion that occurred in the third.
Baertschi - running out of gas seemed most apparent with him
Roussel - thought he was better than decent and he made the right play for most of the game. Has played pretty well so far
Gaudette - couple of ok shifts but l mostly looked like a rookie who getting thru the perimeter of the defense. Has some raw talent and we will see what Green is able to do with it.
Melvin
21/12/05
Well, y'know, Defensemen Take Longer to Develop, and he's only....
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twenty-six and a half?!
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twenty-six and a half?!
Peen
Rejoicing in a Benning-free world
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That would be a hell out of a get out of jail free card.
Tv9924
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I've liked what I've seen from Roussel, hopefully Green puts him with Goldy and EP.
Oliewud
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Towards the end of his tenure? LOL bieksa was a tire fire most of his career. Hamhuis settled him down for a bit but thats about it.
MadaCanuckle
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MadaCanuckle
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I don't know who wrote it but there was an article where someone stated to get Eriksson going, you had to put him as net front presence because this was the role he had on his most successful seasons, mostly in Dallas.
Yes but it’ll be worth it in the long run. He’ll finally figure it out when he’s 36, and then you better watch out.Well, y'know, Defensemen Take Longer to Develop, and he's only....
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twenty-six and a half?!
Foundational Player
Benning the Incompetent
How is this guy in the NHL?
Tape to tape pass alright.
Solid acquisition..............................................for team tank.
Bleach Clean
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Missed this game. The reviews on Gudbranson are confusing. Was he good or bad? These opinions are opposed.
PuckMunchkin
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I wrote something about this.
He feasted on PPs that generated a ton of rebounds. Last time he was the one driving the offense on his line was with Dallas.
I am toxic
. . . even in small doses
Well, except for the part about putting down team mates for not standing up for each other on the ice while he was conveniently unable to take to the ice, then not standing up for a team mate when he was on the ice.
I think he would still get criticism for that.
Good effort but ran out of gas in the third, not to be totally unexpected at the end of a 6 game road trip playing a far superior team and one of the best in the league. I thought they more than held their own physically but this was the game where you really miss Pettersson or another real top end offensive player. A second goal in the first two periods might not have changed the eventual outcome but heading into the third working to hold onto a lead at the end of long trip is a lot different than trying to eek one out.
Overall, no complaints considering where the team is at and the effort level.
Overall, no complaints considering where the team is at and the effort level.
Because orcatown’s breakdown considers Gudbranson’s game overall and MS decided to only focus on a couple bad shifts.
They saw the same game and would agree on how things happened on a play by play basis. The difference is at the end of the game MS will choose to focus on what validates his own previously stated opinions and Orcatown will just tell you what he saw all game.
I’d go with orcatown. He calls it like he sees it without the usual bias and qualifications that MS has whenever he critiques someone that he obviously dislikes.
I’d say Gudbranson was not faultless but certainly not the only to blame for the breakdowns.
He made some nice and efficient plays as well.
They should try Eriksson on the first PP unit instead of Goldobin, hopefully that gets him going. We have too many smallish forwards on the PP (Goldobin, Baertchi) and lose possession quite easily.
Agreed. Anyone besides Edler on the point for the PP would be an upgrade. Stecher & Pouliot are better options.
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Canucks can develop him until he's 36 and then Benning can trade him for
I am toxic
. . . even in small doses
Hard to argue, but I thought him and Goldy were a great fit with EP.
THE Green Man
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I'd more go with from hot garbage to trash. Maybe that's a little harsh but I still don't like him at all. I will give credit though on the breakout pass to Bo was sweet. And agree he has looked better away from Gudbrandson.
I was totally hoping he'd bust out a Fortnite dance when he scored. And I HATE the game.
Reading between the lines:
"Our identity is that our GM can't put a half decent roster so we have to give 110% every game to make up for the handicap we go into every game with. Gotta be relentless to make up for being talentless."
All in all was a good road trip. Going into Tampa and Pittsburgh with wins was great and they were in every game until the 3rd period. Along with missing their best player in EP for 2 games for this team with such low expectations it's a major success. You could tell they were out of gas for this one though. They competed really hard for about 20 minutes, the first 10 of the 1st and the last 10 of the 2nd. But eventually the Jets superior skill and the Canucks not out working them and it caught up. Can't overly fault Nilson for giving up 4 either, Gudbrandson left him out to try multiple times and if he has to play like he did in Tampa to win, this team won't win many games.
Johnny Canucker
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How does Gudbranson get so much heat and Loui is the most useless player in the NHL , literally, and making 6M but flys under the radar ?
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