Shit hockey. I think you’re forgetting how shit this team can ACTUALLY play. Last night was not shit. Washington was not shit. The third period in Nashville was shit.
GDT: GAME 58 | Coyotes @ Senators | Ugh, Whatever! Edition | Fri Mar 1st 7PM, 2024 | TSN5, RDS
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Zero response from the Sens and Tkachuk was then injured later on by O'Brien. Super.
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You just knew they’d be the slumpbusters
How are we so predictable?
I would have bet $1000 they were going to break their slump against us. I didn’t bother watching.
Yeah it was terrible. And why is forsberg dropping that puck into the slot in the first place. They sent a soft wrister into his crest.In the beginning..
That first goal by Yotes, where Chabbie got the assist, facing Forsberg, he passes the rebound back between his own legs to wide open Yote who sez "thx" and pops the puck into wide open net. Play of the game.
Mighty mighty New Jersey lost to Anaheim last night. Their season in serious jeopardy. Remember some wanted to “be New Jersey” this year lol.
Between the legs drop pass for the primary assist. What's not to like?In the beginning..
That first goal by Yotes, where Chabbie got the assist, facing Forsberg, he passes the rebound back between his own legs to wide open Yote who sez "thx" and pops the puck into wide open net. Play of the game.
I seem to remember Jacques being a pacifist type coach and us losing to a much more physical Leafs team 4 times
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The guys you singled out to respond were literally not given any shifts. What do you want them to do, jump the boards and get a ten game suspension? That's why you think they are useless turds?
The refs let the game get out of hand, maybe Jacques should have recognized that and sent out the 4th line to police the game instead of trying to complete the comeback, I wouldn't mind that given the state of the season, but players can't police the game when they aren't given shifts.
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How am I forgetting when 4 periods ago, they got 0 shots in a period.
They've been up and down for years. Every year seems to bring new shitty lows and some random good highs.
We've been yo-yoing for years.
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That was one of the main problems under DJ, as well. The team just doesn't seem ready at puck drop, and doesn't play a 60-minute game. It's frustrating as hell.
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So...are we buyers or sellers?!
I'm almost afraid to see what Staios will do....if he does anything. The honeymoon stage sure didn't last long this year.
We desperately need a top 4, stay at home RD...like about 25 other teams in the league. Not sure how we can make it happen.
Well we have had a real coach for years. And we’ve exclusively had terrible goalies for years.
I totally skipped this game, but is sounds like JM wasn't happy with the reffing, thought the calls were one-sided.
JM's structure has given this team the ability to fight back after bad goals against, but I have found that they seem to fall apart after questionable calls.
Like the really puzzling boarding call against Batherson on Monday night against the Capitals.
I mean they struggle beyond the obvious man disadvantage.
It's tough to foster an us-against-the-world mentatlity when you're bouncing along the bottom of the standings, but it's an attitude they need to foster. Giroux has a bit of it. Brady could, just needs to channel his frustration a bit better.
JM's structure has given this team the ability to fight back after bad goals against, but I have found that they seem to fall apart after questionable calls.
Like the really puzzling boarding call against Batherson on Monday night against the Capitals.
I mean they struggle beyond the obvious man disadvantage.
It's tough to foster an us-against-the-world mentatlity when you're bouncing along the bottom of the standings, but it's an attitude they need to foster. Giroux has a bit of it. Brady could, just needs to channel his frustration a bit better.
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Good to hear thanks for the info,hopefully the Sens can hit a Homerun with their top selection!Have you heard talk that Staios wants a first rounder for Chychrun who wants out?I think the Kings would offer prospects but not a first since the Owner will have GMBlake's head for it
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Is the problem DJ?
The problem is we all subscribe to this one factor analysis. First, it was DJ, and now it is the goaltending. It is obviously the construction of the team. We are probably the worst team in the league at boxing out and clearing the front of the net. We make a ton of unforced errors. We have a penchant, even when playing well, for careless turnovers and chaotic breakdowns that demoralize and frustrate goalies. Every game the team gives up goals totally based on inattention to detail or laziness. Branny will literally stand beside a player in front of the net, providing a double screen, with no attempted effort to move that player or get out of the way. We always say goalie should of had that! Meanwhile our defense is highly gifted at getting in the way rather than battling and clearing lanes.
This team is a goalie graveyard. Talbot is like a top 20 goalie in goals saved above expected this year. He struggled mid-season, because of age and being overplayed, but he is back on track, providing LA is quality goaltending again. I thought he was through last year. I was happy to get rid of him.
Korpri was one of the best goalies in the league last year, with a 12.7goals saved above expected last year and a save percentage above excepted too. I don't know what Korpi is....but I do know this team is a disaster in front of him. Would it surprise you if he had success elsewhere if he indeed was bought out?
Also, the talk about Brady not being in the core is absurd. He is the core(to paraphrase Walter White). Stutzle has fallen apart since Jacques has implemented a more structured "system." He looks absolutely terrible on most nights. Sure, he will put up points and get some secondary assists, but I think we are in the process of having Pinto take the 1 stop. Pinto is more impactful player shift to shift. Stutlze is Spezza. Pinto is Bergeron. You win with Bergeron.
Brady Tkachuk is not part of a winning core, period.
I do not understand the love for the guy. He smothered a moment for Stutzle to stand up for himself, he floats quite a lot. He occasionally throws a hit in the corner for a puck battle and people think he's the best power forward they've ever seen. It's absurd.
He's one of those contracts Dorion gambled with and that saddles us right there with Korpisalo, Norris, Chabot. You can win with a few of these contracts but when the majority of Dorion's gambles have fallen short of expectations and the goaltending is horrific... you outshoot Arizona, it's a competitive game, your goalie can't steal you a win against a desperate team unlike the Leafs and Woll or any other team and their goalie.
There's levels to the contracts as well.
Korpisalo is by far the worst. Another Dorion gamble "oh he had one good season now he's going to break out to be a superstar".
Norris is probably next, he can't stay healthy and it looks like he wont' ever hit 35 goals again.
Chabot's next, he hasn't really grown as a player. Same guy making the same mistakes years later. With Sanderson it just makes everything look worse.
Tkachuk is last, I don't have a major problem with the contract but he's not a core player you have to keep if you need a reset.
With average to above average goaltending this could be covered up. But we've had bad goaltending all season long leading to the DJ firing, Jacques Martin who doesn't really want to coach getting behind the bench and our current struggles. You can't expect players to be at their peak 82 games a season with no memories that their goaltender tandem is by far the worst in the league.
And for all those who want to use this moment to defend DJ Smith. The night after he was fired, which team did we play and what did that game look like? Compare it to now where you think the team gave a poor effort. What did this poor effort look like relative to December 19th the day after DJ Smith was fired?
I do not understand the love for the guy. He smothered a moment for Stutzle to stand up for himself, he floats quite a lot. He occasionally throws a hit in the corner for a puck battle and people think he's the best power forward they've ever seen. It's absurd.
He's one of those contracts Dorion gambled with and that saddles us right there with Korpisalo, Norris, Chabot. You can win with a few of these contracts but when the majority of Dorion's gambles have fallen short of expectations and the goaltending is horrific... you outshoot Arizona, it's a competitive game, your goalie can't steal you a win against a desperate team unlike the Leafs and Woll or any other team and their goalie.
There's levels to the contracts as well.
Korpisalo is by far the worst. Another Dorion gamble "oh he had one good season now he's going to break out to be a superstar".
Norris is probably next, he can't stay healthy and it looks like he wont' ever hit 35 goals again.
Chabot's next, he hasn't really grown as a player. Same guy making the same mistakes years later. With Sanderson it just makes everything look worse.
Tkachuk is last, I don't have a major problem with the contract but he's not a core player you have to keep if you need a reset.
With average to above average goaltending this could be covered up. But we've had bad goaltending all season long leading to the DJ firing, Jacques Martin who doesn't really want to coach getting behind the bench and our current struggles. You can't expect players to be at their peak 82 games a season with no memories that their goaltender tandem is by far the worst in the league.
And for all those who want to use this moment to defend DJ Smith. The night after he was fired, which team did we play and what did that game look like? Compare it to now where you think the team gave a poor effort. What did this poor effort look like relative to December 19th the day after DJ Smith was fired?
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I am not a fan of your take.
This core is good. They are beaten by mental weakness... but is it really weakness. How long would you last with shitty goaltending.
Sens have lost a lot of games due to getting outplayed by better goalies. It's a fact. This goaltending duo couldn't save a puck if their life depended on it.
There are pieces that need to be changed out... but Brady is not one of them. (unless you send me $300 to cover the cost of another jersey).
I don't think we need to trade him. I'm saying if a decision is made for dramatic change he's not on my untouchable list. We've seen his best season. It's a PPG where he gets fed opportunities on the PP and has Ovechkin numbers of shots with half the goals Ovechkin put up.
He's a guy who needs talent around him to succeed. If you ever want to see 40+ goals out of him it's going to be a Zach Hyman situation where we get McDavid or Crosby centering for him.
Life goes on and lot more busy these days, took me 20+ years to be this disinterested about my favorite team
Some nights I feel like not even tuning in.
Ill think hard and long before driving 4 hours to see them again.
Very disappointed, 7 years. My girlfriend didn’t understand why I sat still in front of the TV for one hour after the Kunitz goal, I told her « took me 10 years to live another nice run, don’t know when Ill see that again. » man, I was spot on sadly
Some nights I feel like not even tuning in.
Ill think hard and long before driving 4 hours to see them again.
Very disappointed, 7 years. My girlfriend didn’t understand why I sat still in front of the TV for one hour after the Kunitz goal, I told her « took me 10 years to live another nice run, don’t know when Ill see that again. » man, I was spot on sadly
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Brady is a good player and definitely can be part of a winning core. But not the guy you "build around".
Like the only reason that is even a thing is because of his last name, not actually because of his leadership or quality as a player, it's the marketing.
Anyway the sooner this team goes away from being "Brady's (and Chabot's) team" to the Senators the better the winning identity will be.
And that happens when Sanderson/Stutzle/Pinto/Greig supplant the "leadership" core of Brady/Chabot/Batherson do we start seeing the shift.
Like the only reason that is even a thing is because of his last name, not actually because of his leadership or quality as a player, it's the marketing.
Anyway the sooner this team goes away from being "Brady's (and Chabot's) team" to the Senators the better the winning identity will be.
And that happens when Sanderson/Stutzle/Pinto/Greig supplant the "leadership" core of Brady/Chabot/Batherson do we start seeing the shift.
