GDT: Game #55 Rangers @ Bruins 7pm ET May the 6ith

[will1066]

but miller is not learning at all. That is a problem. Every game at least one person gets behind him. Every god damn game.

he is the dman I would dangle for a top young center. I am seriously beginning to doubt he will wver hit full potential. His inability to learn this year, and actually keep getting worse is worrisome.
Hopefully a new coach can teach him. But he might be the defensive version of kreider. Great physical skills but not smart enough to make the most of them. A player who becomes very good but not elite and leaves u wanting more.

i also doubt he will ever develop a mean streak and use his body. He doesnt seem to have the killer instinct that way.

His reads are just poor. And he's probably exhausted. Pro season is taxing on kids. Not to mention losing Trouba really hurt his game.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

You really believe Quinn doesn't care?

I think he knows he is done, if Rangers wanted him they would have given him some hint. Of that coaching staff only Martin deserves to stay. Hire Gallant or Paul McLean and let them hire 2 assistants.

 

[Ruggs225]

His reads are just poor. And he's probably exhausted. Pro season is taxing on kids. Not to mention losing Trouba really hurt his game.

His downfall started when trouba was still playing.

he isnt learning. And now he is playing with fox, who is extremely smart.
He just seems not to learn at all. He makes the same bad reads every game.

I think he actually is worse than hajek right now, but makes up for it bc of his raw ability.

 

[Ruggs225]

I think he knows he is done, if Rangers wanted him they would have given him some hint. Of that coaching staff only Martin deserves to stay. Hire Gallant or Paul McLean and let them hire 2 assistants.

i think only allaire stays. I am a big believer in letting the coach choose his entire staff. Cant force Martin on a new coach. If the coach wants him great, if not then he goes too.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

i think only allaire stays. I am a big believer in letting the coach choose his entire staff. Cant force Martin on a new coach. If the coach wants him great, if not then he goes too.

most of the times when team fires coaches at least one guy remains. And Martin didn't really do anything wrong, our defense got better with him on board so I think he stays at least 1 more year.

Is Allaire actually still coaching our goalies? I feel like he is not, I haven't heard his name in a while.

 

[CLW]

I don't see it with Chytil personally. I think he will be a decent player but his game is so lacking outside the offensive zone. It could be the coaching, but he not a must keep for me, depending on how the situation at C unfolds. The Rangers have too many of these types that can skate but you question the if they really have the head for the game. I don't feel Chytil makes his line mates better, but he needs them to elevate his game.

Miller is another one. I always feel there is a potential mistake there. I think he will eventually be a good one, but I think Jones will be at least as good and be so faster. I'd keep Jones over Miller.

 

[duhmetreE]

I don't see it with Chytil personally. I think he will be a decent player but his game is so lacking outside the offensive zone. It could be the coaching, but he not a must keep for me, depending on how the situation at C unfolds. The Rangers have too many of these types that can skate but you question the if they really have the head for the game. I don't feel Chytil makes his line mates better, but he needs them to elevate his game.

Miller is another one. I always feel there is a potential mistake there. I think he will eventually be a good one, but I think Jones will be at least as good and be so faster. I'd keep Jones over Miller.

Chytil I've always been suspect on. You can't have a dumb center with limited playmaking ability in the top6, unless of course he's playing with Panarin... but even then, Panarin clicks with high IQ players. I still think he's built much better for wing.

KAM is an untouchable in my book. Jones, I'd trade easily ( with Robertson, Lundkvist and Schneider on the way )

 

[Black Aces]

Everyone's trying. They're insanely overmatched, unless you think Gettinger and Marchand are of similar skill levels.

We didnt get a single scoring chance. Not one?

 

[chosen]

I think he knows he is done, if Rangers wanted him they would have given him some hint. Of that coaching staff only Martin deserves to stay. Hire Gallant or Paul McLean and let them hire 2 assistants.

I assume he's done except why didn't he leave during the purge?

 

[chosen]

We didnt get a single scoring chance. Not one?

I'm surprised that they didn't lose by 10.

Look at all the missing Rangers and the AHL players that replaced them. Add in Miller playing one of the worst games a Rangers defenseman has ever played and you get what you saw.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

but miller is not learning at all. That is a problem. Every game at least one person gets behind him. Every god damn game.

he is the dman I would dangle for a top young center. I am seriously beginning to doubt he will wver hit full potential. His inability to learn this year, and actually keep getting worse is worrisome.
Hopefully a new coach can teach him. But he might be the defensive version of kreider. Great physical skills but not smart enough to make the most of them. A player who becomes very good but not elite and leaves u wanting more.

i also doubt he will ever develop a mean streak and use his body. He doesnt seem to have the killer instinct that way.

Big mistake. He did way more than he was expected to do. He just looks mentally and physically exhausted to me. You don't give up on a 6'5" 21yo defenseman who was playing 20 minutes a game in his rookie year. Especially this f'ed up year.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

I assume he's done except why didn't he leave during the purge?

because last 3 games were likely to be losses, not really fair to put 3 losses on a replacement coach.

 

[ReddestRum]

but miller is not learning at all. That is a problem. Every game at least one person gets behind him. Every god damn game.

he is the dman I would dangle for a top young center. I am seriously beginning to doubt he will wver hit full potential. His inability to learn this year, and actually keep getting worse is worrisome.
Hopefully a new coach can teach him. But he might be the defensive version of kreider. Great physical skills but not smart enough to make the most of them. A player who becomes very good but not elite and leaves u wanting more.

i also doubt he will ever develop a mean streak and use his body. He doesnt seem to have the killer instinct that way.

Dude. He's f***ing 21. Some of you are expecting miracles from rookies playing on a mediocre team with mediocre coaching with injuries to vets and/or vets absolutely sucking.

 

[Rempe73]

You guys actually watched this game?

 

[DanielBrassard]

I don't see it with Chytil personally. I think he will be a decent player but his game is so lacking outside the offensive zone. It could be the coaching, but he not a must keep for me, depending on how the situation at C unfolds. The Rangers have too many of these types that can skate but you question the if they really have the head for the game. I don't feel Chytil makes his line mates better, but he needs them to elevate his game.

Miller is another one. I always feel there is a potential mistake there. I think he will eventually be a good one, but I think Jones will be at least as good and be so faster. I'd keep Jones over Miller.

Hate to say it but I'm starting to agree. I really do like Chytil and wouldn't mind keeping him but if he's part of a deal for a top center I wouldn't have an issue with it at this point. With you on Miller as well, especially with Jones and Robertson behind him, not to mention finding LD's who are decent enough isn't all that hard.

 

[Fitzy]

Big mistake. He did way more than he was expected to do. He just looks mentally and physically exhausted to me. You don't give up on a 6'5" 21yo defenseman who was playing 20 minutes a game in his rookie year. Especially this f'ed up year.

For sure. He’s not an untouchable for me, but he’s not a sell high either

 

[Ruggs225]

Dude. He's f***ing 21. Some of you are expecting miracles from rookies playing on a mediocre team with mediocre coaching with injuries to vets and/or vets absolutely sucking.

not a miracle, just growth. He has shown zero growth. Kakko, laff barron erc. All showed growth. He regressed. Big time.
He makes the same mistakes over and over. Hasnt learned at all.

He regressed his second year at Wisconsin too.

i just think he will top out as a good top 4 dman, but never an elite one.

I do think that his potential and raw ability would fetch a top young center or at least be the centerpiece. thats why i would trade high, but only if it brings back the coveted center.

he definitely needs to be in the ahl though. For at least half season next year.

 

[Lays]

What the f***? I absolutely never said that. Don’t be an ass and try to mention me in some garbage like this.

You absolutely did. I distinctively remember this

you actually compared his shot to Ovi’s and we’re trying to argue in favor of that by posting a quote, and even tagged me in it. I’ll copy and paste it

““His one-timer from the right circle at this stage of his development is equal to that of Alex Ovechkin’s or Patrik Laine’s during their respective draft years.”


@Lays”

here are more quotes from you

“His shot? That’s about as good as you are going to find. It’s been compared to Oveckins shot when he was 17”

“Have you watched his goals??? To say his shot is a weakness or anything less than WELL above average is odd. You dont break the record for goals as a rookie with with an average shot..and every scouting report talks about his amazing shot. So i’m not sure what you’re talking about”

here’s what I said about Kakko’s shot in response to you

“Every single one and I’ve also watched 20+ games. Kakko has a good shot but it’s not elite, or even very good. Just good

His shot placement and goal scoring around the net is incredible though”

to which you followed up with

“So i guess all the scouts are wrong.”


Took me 2 minutes to pull this up

 

[Kravtsov420]

You really believe Quinn doesn't care?

In an alcoholic abusive parent kind of way, yes he cares

 

[chosen]

because last 3 games were likely to be losses, not really fair to put 3 losses on a replacement coach.

It's fair to leave a dead man walking?

You think Dolan cares about fair?

 

[chosen]

In an alcoholic abusive parent kind of way, yes he cares

What an idiotic statement.

 

[ReddestRum]

not a miracle, just growth. He has shown zero growth. Kakko, laff barron erc. All showed growth. He regressed. Big time.
He makes the same mistakes over and over. Hasnt learned at all.

He regressed his second year at Wisconsin too.

i just think he will top out as a good top 4 dman, but never an elite one.

I do think that his potential and raw ability would fetch a top young center or at least be the centerpiece. thats why i would trade high, but only if it brings back the coveted center.

he definitely needs to be in the ahl though. For at least half season next year.

You're comparing KAM to a forward that has less points in his second year with the team than his first. And then to a forward, who in his first year, had been largely invisible for a #1 pick for the majority of the season. Then you say Barron has shown so much growth in his 4 games with the team with 1G/0A/-2. I mean, I guess you can ascertain player growth in 4 f***ing games. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

With fans like you, I do hope we trade away young players at the first signs of a tough season so they can grow in their prime years under better tutelage elsewhere just to spite the likes of you.. I mean, if this was the case, how many Rangers would we have dumped to the curb by now? Early in the season? Middle of the season?

 

[JHS]

Did Mica play in the third or was he benched? I mean he really did not play in the first two periods with any meaningful minutes so it’s possible he just continued his Houdini act in the third but I really am not sure he played.

How convenient for Quinn that these last two games are in Boston! Maybe Drury can save him the flight back to NY and just can him now!

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Literally just as Sam says “Miller has looked comfortable...”. You can’t script this stuff folks.

This is the problem with biased commentary. Well, more "polite commentary". Sam and Joe NEVER EVER say a player makes a mistake. It doesn't matter if it's a Ranger or an opponent. It's always "Unlucky bounce" or "Unfortunate".

When Staal had more turnovers than a bakery, it was always the same. Never his fault, always unlucky.

 

[rangersfansince08]

6-1
4-0
3-0
6-3
4-2
4-0

27-6

Ridiculously bad stretch.