GDT: Game 25: Columbus at St. Louis | 11/28 8PM EST

[We Want Ten]

I'll agree with your general point about the line, but Hartnell and Saad were very involved in last night's goal. It wasn't as if they just happened to be on the ice. Hartnell was on the lip of the goal crease and Joey scored off the rebound of Saad's shot. I wonder if we should be giving so many minutes to Karlsson. We have only scored 6 goals all year with him on the ice.

I disagree with you about Karlsson, to me Foligno is the much bigger concern.

 

[NotWendell]

I thought Foligno was still playing well until here recently, but well or not, he needs to actually score. Maybe even sitting him like Murray did would help.

I can see him getting traded long before Johansen.

 

[MAHJ71]

Foligno's getting shots.. But he's missing the mustard on it. Needs to keep driving the net and get a couple greasers to get his confidence going.

Agreed. It will come. Frustrating for sure but, I don't blame Foligno for where we are right now.

 

[Fred Glover]

Torts comments should be fun as he talks about:

Being outshot, outplayed, lost the majority of the face offs

 

[Fred Glover]

Pittsburgh whines enough for the whole league ha ha love it

 

[Halfboard]

LOL, Torts calling Pens whiners.........

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

Pittsburgh whines enough for the whole league ha ha love it

Did that really come out of Tortorella's mouth?

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Here comes the overreactions

 

[We Want Ten]

Gonna need video people....

 

[Jaxs]

Ha ha. The biggest take away from the presser- The pitt crysbys

 

[DJA]

Did that really come out of Tortorella's mouth?

@Aportzline: #CBJ coach John Tortorella, on missing Dubinsky: "We're not going to whine here. Pittsburgh can whine. Pittsburgh whines enough for the whole league, so there's no room for any other team to whine. We just go about our business."

 

[DJA]

Here comes the overreactions

Didn't you say you were giving up on the season a couple games ago, if we lost to NJ?

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

@Aportzline: #CBJ coach John Tortorella, on missing Dubinsky: "We're not going to whine here. Pittsburgh can whine. Pittsburgh whines enough for the whole league, so there's no room for any other team to whine. We just go about our business."

Awesome

 

[major major]

I disagree with you about Karlsson, to me Foligno is the much bigger concern.

You can be concerned about both.

The team still scores a fair bit when Foligno is out there. Even in Foligno's awful slump, he's still handily outproducing Karlsson. The team scores an abysmal 1.27 goals for every 60 minutes that Karlsson plays. Foligno's at a 2.15, which is low but not in the same neighborhood as Karlsson.

 

[We Want Ten]

You can be concerned about both.

The team still scores a fair bit when Foligno is out there. Even in Foligno's awful slump, he's still handily outproducing Karlsson. The team scores an abysmal 1.27 goals for every 60 minutes that Karlsson plays. Foligno's at a 2.15, which is low but not in the same neighborhood as Karlsson.

Does that count towards PK and PP time?

 

[major major]

Does that count towards PK and PP time?

Oh sorry. That's 5 on 5 only.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Didn't you say you were giving up on the season a couple games ago, if we lost to NJ?

Yeah, it was a really important game. Did we lose?

 

[We Want Ten]

Oh sorry. That's 5 on 5 only.

Ok, thanks.
I get your point, I guess the third or fourth line C's just don't get me all that upset. While I do care, I care more about the Captains woes at this time. I'm going to chalk some of it up to growing pains and needing time. The C has no such excuse IMO.

To prove your point though, 2 of those goals on Karlsons line came in one game... Lol.

 

[NotWendell]

@Aportzline: #CBJ coach John Tortorella, on missing Dubinsky: "We're not going to whine here. Pittsburgh can whine. Pittsburgh whines enough for the whole league, so there's no room for any other team to whine. We just go about our business."

I'm starting to LOVE this guy!

 

[major major]

Ok, thanks.
I get your point, I guess the third or fourth line C's just don't get me all that upset. While I do care, I care more about the Captains woes at this time. I'm going to chalk some of it up to growing pains and needing time. The C has no such excuse IMO.

To prove your point though, 2 of those goals on Karlsons line came in one game... Lol.

It's fair to hold Foligno to a higher standard.

But we're not just putting Karlsson out there in a shutdown or checking capacity. He's got two of our top goal scorers on his wings, and they haven't been scoring with him.

 

[DJA]

Yeah, it was a really important game. Did we lose?

they're all important. every loss hurts, where we are now. we need winning streaks. not 1 or 2 in a row.

 

[The Jones Zone]

I can see him getting traded long before Johansen.

We have about as much chance of trading Foligno as we do Clarkson

2 contracts to screw this entire organization for 4 more years

but they got their money.......no worries for either of them

 

[DJA]

We have about as much chance of trading Foligno as we do Clarkson

2 contracts to screw this entire organization for 4 more years

but they got their money.......no worries for either of them

Clarkson is wayyyy worse than Foligno, even though I am growing to hate Nick's contract. We are paying Nick to be a 60-65 point guy, when he's going to be in the 40-45 point range most years, if we're lucky.

Clarkson is basically a $7 million version of Corey Tropp.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

they're all important. every loss hurts, where we are now. we need winning streaks. not 1 or 2 in a row.

I agree, but the streaks mean more against eastern teams. This sucks not to get a point, but there's no sense in overreacting

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

Clarkson is wayyyy worse than Foligno, even though I am growing to hate Nick's contract. We are paying Nick to be a 60-65 point guy, when he's going to be in the 40-45 point range most years, if we're lucky.

Clarkson is basically a $7 million version of Corey Tropp.

Don't insult Tropp like that