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So long as we go on a ~checks notes~ 10 game winning streak starting right now we have a shot at the playoffs.
Thank you, Jim.
Thank you, Jim.
There is no other.This teams identity is the owners identity.
Couple of things
When ever I've coached I've tired to emphasize that jersey and team should mean something. It's like saying you're playing for each other. Thus if you are not giving it your all than you are not letting me, as the coach, down but instead your letting your teammates down. It's maybe cliche but the old adage about playing for the emblem on the front of the jersey rather than the name on the back applies here. As a fan I've always, maybe stupidly, supported the team and crests, as varied as it has been, that represent the team. I may rail against individuals in the organization which make it difficult to have much pride in the team, but not the idea of the team as nebulous as that might be.
Second, throwing the jersey as general condemnation of everything Canuck is misplaced. The jersey represents many magical moments - like Burrows scoring and saluting Bourdon in heaven, like Bure scoring the OT winner against Calgary, or the Sedins last game. If I was willing to enjoy what the Canuck crest meant to me at that time then its a little shallow to spit on when I feel let down or angered by their play.
Third, It diverts attention from the real issue by spreading the blame in too general a way. The players, to me, are not to blame for the situation. From what I know, the team almost to man are good people. Also I believe they are trying but have been put in an impossible situation and try as they might they don't have the players to achieve much of anything. The problem, as I see it, is Aqualini and Benning. They are the ones who are hurting the team and that's were the focus should be. Chanting "Fire Benning" etc. I have no problem with since it identifies the individual who is most at fault instead of obscuring Benning and Aqualini's responsibility by blaming everyone and anything Canuck in general. In some ways, it unfortunately gets people like Benning off the hook.
Fourth, I see the whole jersey toss thing as meaningless and dull way to express your feelings. Like wow they did it over there so its just the cool thing to do. Why not be a little innovative and, more importantly, direct your criticism at the individuals responsible. For example, the guy who flew the banner over the skies of Vancouver saying we should fire Benning or the person who put on shirt suggesting all the crap moves made by Benning. I give those guys credit for actually thinking rather than the easy, mindless gesture of tossing a jersey. One thing Vancouerites could take credit for over the years is the novel ways they have come in protesting things over the years. Be hell of lot more fun and probably more effective if we used a little more thought in this case as well.
I certainly support anything that would get rid of current management. But not the jersey toss. To me, it spread blame too widely and smears people not responsible, it diminishes unnecessarily past achievements , it directs attention away from the real problems and lacks any degree of imaginative protest.
I actually agree with that, that's exactly what I said when I watched it
Green kinda summed it up when asked if we had the players for an effective pk: “we have what we have”.
Sure Letsng sold it. However, Motte did cross check him. Wasn’t an awful cross check or anything and it was sold but it was also stupid.
It’s the exact penalty they are cracking down on. You put your stick on someone’s back with any sort of force (and there was force) and it’s going to be called. It’s nearly one third into the season and the players should know this. It was a poor decision by Motte. Canucks need to own that and own that teams can kill these things off. This one can’t but the others can.
They also have a coach who really hasn’t changed anything on the PK. Not talking system because there’s not much variation that can done there but personnel. He keeps trotting out the same players over and over again expecting different results. Well maybe he’s not expecting different results anymore.
But there are no changes made. Just try some other guys who you think can’t do it and maybe you find a couple that can actually do the job.
The performance was not nearly as bad as the fan/media reaction is making it out to be. Can't really fault the penalties taken, or the penguins scoring during what was essentially their 5th and 6th minutes of 5 on 3 during the second. Sometimes you will be as lucky as Guentzel and take three shots that are heading wide and still score off of deflections and sometimes you won't.
Just to keep some perpective:
Remember when the Leafs and Habs had jerseys thrown on the ice? At the time that those events occurred, each of those teams was in the bottom 5 for Goal Differential versus Expected Goal Differential. The Canucks now sit 29th in that category at about -16 and are due for a massive positive regression in this regard. The Leafs have already had theirs and have vaulted up the standings.
This team is not nearly as bad as its record suggests, but as a mediocre (13-20th ish) quality team this year, they were always going to need a little bit of luck to make the playoffs and they have gotten quite the opposite. In the pacific, the Ducks and Sharks are good examples of similarly mediocre teams that have gotten a lot of good breaks and are currently sitting in playoff positions as a result.
Hate it with the jersey move. Makes any sensible discussion of the problems with this team seem irrational. Can just dismiss all the legitimate reasons for a change because such antics make it seem ignorant overreaction. If some fans have a clever, thoughtful or maybe even amusing way of showing frustration with the situation would be something you could admire. Jersey thing is just copy cat and classless.