GDT: Game 23: Coyotes @ Maple Leafs - 5PM - FSAZ

[mtnet]

Grats on stringing a few together guys, keep it up. Beating tml is no small feat.

 

[Summer Rose]

I was actually asking the same thing - if the referee states 'goalie intearference' in the explanation... doesn't that mean that a penalty is involved. Pardon my stupidity or ignorance, but is tha?t because they called it a goal on the ice and then went to video review, you can't use review to determine a penalty?

Yeah, you can't call a penalty on video review during a game. Worst that can happen is that they can use video replay from a game to determine supplementary discipline, even if there wasn't a penalty called on the play during the game.

 

[Matias Maccete]

Yet scored twice...weird.

(Note to self. I before E except after C, and the word "weird")

English is so dumb. I remember learning Spanish and being blown away at how much more sense it makes.

Nice win guys, you earned it, the leafs played like crap and deserved the loss, i don't believe you guys are as bad as your record says, i vehemently disagree with the disallowed goal but thats mostly because of the NHL's inconsistencies with goalie interference calls. Until the next one!

The only consistency is inconsistency.

 

[mouser]

Raanta with a great game, I'm thinking he's a keeper.

 

[SniperHF]

OH we've got a mainboard thread that isn't about us losing a bunch of games

 

[0point1]

Nice win guys, you earned it, the leafs played like crap and deserved the loss, i don't believe you guys are as bad as your record says, i vehemently disagree with the disallowed goal but thats mostly because of the NHL's inconsistencies with goalie interference calls. Until the next one!

Yeah if I was a Leafs fan I would be pissed right now so I understand man. Sucks also it was Matthews that got it taken away but it happens. Keep kicking ass and don't let games like this get to you guys too much.

 

[Matias Maccete]

OH we've got a mainboard thread that isn't about us losing a bunch of games

Without looking I'm guessing it's a conspiracy thread about how the NHL is gifting us wins.

 

[BigJCaRoach]

W train keeps going, boys! Choo choo!

 

[GQS]

Players are responsible for their stick, same as a high sticking penalty. Not a fun way to have a goal taken away but I prefer consistency.

Except there's not much consistency with what's considered goalie interference and what's not. Today this goal is disallowed, tomorrow with the exact same play with different refs it might've counted. And if you want to talk about inconsistency just look at last year's Ducks/Oilers game 5 in the playoffs where Kesler had his hand in one of Talbot's pads for several seconds and that goal counted. Wayyyy more interference and that counts and yet a slight tap where the goalie was able to recover and its a no goal.

There has to be some way to have more consistency with calls like this.

 

[mouser]

I was actually asking the same thing - if the referee states 'goalie intearference' in the explanation... doesn't that mean that a penalty is involved. Pardon my stupidity or ignorance, but is tha?t because they called it a goal on the ice and then went to video review, you can't use review to determine a penalty?

No, goalie interference doesn't automatically require a penalty. Without copying and breaking down the rule book, short summary:

- Intentional goalie interference by a player is a penalty.

- Goalie interference by a player that's not ruled intentional can still result in the goal being disallowed without a penalty.

In this case the Toronto War Room most likely ruled that Hyman was in the crease and made contact with Raanta. Regardless of whether that contact was intentional by Hyman--or even if Raanta initiated himself--so long as that contact prohibits the goalie from defending his net and the player (Hyman) wasn't forced into the crease/contact by a defending player then a goal can be disallowed without penalty.

 

[finkelsteinberg]

I was telling @Grimes I am so glad OEL picked the Leafs to play his best game of the year so they can quit putting up BS trade offers.

 

[cobra427]

3 straight, take that for sure, glad we are winning, when your hot your hot!

 

[Matias Maccete]

Except there's not much consistency with what's considered goalie interference and what's not. Today this goal is disallowed, tomorrow with the exact same play with different refs it might've counted. And if you want to talk about inconsistency just look at last year's Ducks/Oilers game 5 in the playoffs where Kesler had his hand in one of Talbot's pads for several seconds and that goal counted. Wayyyy more interference and that counts and yet a slight tap where the goalie was able to recover and its a no goal.

There has to be some way to have more consistency with calls like this.

I agree with today's call, but completely agree with you about how inconsistent they are with enforcing goalie interference. It's kind of a crap shoot.

 

[DoanStopBelievin]

I was telling @Grimes I am so glad OEL picked the Leafs to play his best game of the year so they can quit putting up BS trade offers.

Wait, you mean OEL is worth more than a big pile of d*****t 26 yr old prospects?

 

[SniperHF]

Maybe a bit lost in the shuffle, but Keller with a 2 point night and controlled the PP.

 

[RemoAZ]

Maybe a bit lost in the shuffle, but Keller with a 2 point night and controlled the PP.

His passing is so good. Like Domi, I think he needs to stick with consistent linemates to gain some chemistry. The puck is on and off his stick in the blink of an eye. You have to be ready for that as his linemate.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

they played a fantastic first 13 mins and played good hockey the rest of the way to earn the win

 

[Mosby]

Leafs fans tears are delicious! Howl!

 

[Muppet]

Leafs fans tears are delicious! Howl!

Nothing makes me happier than salty Leafs fans, and they are out in force right now

 

[HisIceness]

I like when your team beats Montreal and Toronto. It makes for good reads on this forum

 

[Heldig]

This feels good.

 

[Heldig]

Without looking I'm guessing it's a conspiracy thread about how the NHL is gifting us wins.

Yup.

There is consensus the Matthews goal was interference though.

 

[TheLegend]

Crazy nugget time...


We’re 8 points out of a wild card spot.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

That was a blast, I didn't really give us much of a chance, but that's why they play the games. The boys may just be starting to get things figured out. Wins should do a lot to help progress.

Special teams being the difference, if they can stay strong we can win some games.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Yup.

There is consensus the Matthews goal was interference though.

Call on the ice probably should have been spearing and no goal - Leafs got off easy.