hangman005
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Also another game in a long list of games going back to last season where we fail to score more than once with the back up.
Even though we gave up a one goal lead, it took several tic-tac penalties and two broken sticks to tie the game. Granted, we'll win an OT game in about ten more years, but the part of the game we saw wasn't like recent games - we controlled possession and had beaucoup chances, didn't need the goalie to steal the game. We play every game like this we'll win most and as I said there's no 3 on 3 in the playoffs.Going back to last season that is 10 straight games without a win in OT. Pathetic.
And another 3rd period lead we give up that ends in a loss. It almost feels like the team doesn’t want Subban to win a game. We never see the team play well enough to give him an easy win.
Great effort by Suubs. Sucks he didn't get the W. I get tired of the lazy 'He sucks' analysis. He's good. I'd like to see him get more reps going forward.
We're not scoring because:
Eakin - 0 goals
Pirri - 0 goals
Pacioretty - 4 goals (at 7 million per year)
Nosek - 0 goals since first two games
Glass - 2 goals (gets a pass as rookie playing out of position)
andWe're not scoring because:
Eakin - 0 goals
Pirri - 0 goals
Pacioretty - 4 goals (at 7 million per year)
Nosek - 0 goals since first two games
Glass - 2 goals (gets a pass as rookie playing out of position)
Stand corrected on Glass, but........................part of this is on the defense. Spending too much time in our zone (much better tonight, btw), having to go 200 feet to score. We used to be constantly pressuring the other team, forcing turnovers and mistakes, getting to the goalie before he's set. Now...........not so much.and
Karlsson 4 goals
Marchessault 3 goals
Glass has 3 goals btw
This team isn’t scoring enough goals. In the last 11 games the number of goals scored has been: 2, 3, 3, 2, 2, 1, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Obvious answer - build a real third line that can score and defend and take some pressure over the Marchy-Karlsson-SMith line. I'd favor moving Glass to second line center and dropping Stastny to third line with Eakin and Tuch/Carrier as wings, with Roy inserted for Carrier on fourth.I forgot to mention that in the game against Montreal, Tuch played and scored a goal, Eakin had 2 assists (his only points of the season!) and Glass had a goal. And the team scored 4 goals. That makes the scoring numbers I showed earlier look even worse.
Hey is he always this good? :/? Or a classic case of getting up for one as it is his hometown?I don't understand how we look so bad in OT... it baffles the mind.
On the bright side, great game by Subban
He's had his moments, but often they're bad ones. Inconsistent and often injured. But if he could have games like this more often, it sure would take a load off Flower.Hey is he always this good? :/? Or a classic case of getting up for one as it is his hometown?
(leaf fan so didn't quite now). Thank you for the info. I also had a question re: glass. Seems like some fans think he should be sent down? He was absolutely fantastic yesterday imo. Is that an anomaly or is he consistently doing this and just doesn't have the line mates to capitalize in terms of stats?He's had his moments, but often they're bad ones. Inconsistent and often injured. But if he could have games like this more often, it sure would take a load off Flower.
(leaf fan so didn't quite now). Thank you for the info. I also had a question re: glass. Seems like some fans think he should be sent down? He was absolutely fantastic yesterday imo. Is that an anomaly or is he consistently doing this and just doesn't have the line mates to capitalize in terms of stats?
When did I say can't? I said Gallant is risking his development potential playing him on the wing with two guys who have had zero puck management ability thus resulting in Glass spending the majority of his early formative days chasing after the puck. That cross crease pass 5 on 5 that Glass almost scored on is the most dangerous chance the third line has had since Eakin returned from injury and spoiler alert, it only happened because Marchessault hadn't made a line change and was the one with the puck skills to feed him. When it's Eakin/Pirri/Nosek the majority of Glass' growth is built around chasing the puck around the ice. He's not learning how to win faceoffs in a game setting, outside of a couple powerplay minutes a game he's not honing his ability to perform in set offensive plays because his linemates have dead sticks. The only thing he's consistently having the opportunity to refine is his defensive zone play. And that's fine if we're developing a future middle 6 defensive winger. Not with the guy who is supposed to be our number 1 center someday.There are some here (ahem) who believe that a rookie centerman can't play wing on an NHL team and be a great centerman in the future.
I agree with you, he's fun to watch and I'm happy he's up, even if it means slumming it on the wing.
When did I say can't? I said Gallant is risking his development potential playing him on the wing with two guys who have had zero puck management ability thus resulting in Glass spending the majority of his early formative days chasing after the puck. That cross crease pass 5 on 5 that Glass almost scored on is the most dangerous chance the third line has had since Eakin returned from injury and spoiler alert, it only happened because Marchessault hadn't made a line change and was the one with the puck skills to feed him. When it's Eakin/Pirri/Nosek the majority of Glass' growth is built around chasing the puck around the ice. He's not learning how to win faceoffs in a game setting, outside of a couple powerplay minutes a game he's not honing his ability to perform in set offensive plays because his linemates have dead sticks. The only thing he's consistently having the opportunity to refine is his defensive zone play. And that's fine if we're developing a future middle 6 defensive winger. Not with the guy who is supposed to be our number 1 center someday.
I never said he can't still be a great center. I'm just saying the situation he's in now is not ideal to optimize the chance that he gets there. And especially because Eakin is contributing **** all offensively and the line is offensively dead, Turk might as well let Glass have the center slot and get minutes playing the position and taking faceoffs. It's one thing to get to participate in faceoff drills in practice where there's no stakes involved in losing a draw. It's another to hone the skill in a game setting where it matters. So again, not saying this situation precludes him from being a great center but if he ends up a more average second liner it's gonna be hard not to attribute it to Gallant treating him more like a piece on the chessboard than an asset that needs to be handled properly for maximum future returns.
As long as all losses are in overtime I'm fine with it.I ****ing hate this win one lose one pattern. I hated when the Sens did it and now I am hating that the Knights are doing it. This **** needs to stop right ****ing now.
You've said many times in many different ways that playing him 3W will ruin his future as a star center.
Tarkanian used to say he worked his guys so hard in practice that they looked forward to an actual game so they could take it easy a little bit.
In a poor twist of that, I think if you break a player in with less-than-optimal linemates, and he has to figure out how to make that work, and off-position to boot, centering a line containing two of Stone, Patches, Smith would be a joy. Marchessault would still be a pain in the butt because he won't shut up.
Hey is he always this good? :/? Or a classic case of getting up for one as it is his hometown?
(leaf fan so didn't quite now). Thank you for the info. I also had a question re: glass. Seems like some fans think he should be sent down? He was absolutely fantastic yesterday imo. Is that an anomaly or is he consistently doing this and just doesn't have the line mates to capitalize in terms of stats?